Step into the expansive universe of happiness and consciousness with Philippe Brouilard, founder of Vita Quantum and creator of the Quantum Source Formula, as he and host Linda Lang invite us to explore the real essence of fulfillment on Exploring the Mystical Side of Life.

Have you ever wondered why, despite unprecedented comfort and access to information, our society is filled with disconnection and dissatisfaction? In this episode, Philippe reveals that true happiness isn’t about more data or material gain—it’s about cultivating deeper meaning and raising consciousness.

Here are three inspiring takeaways:

🔹 Meaning Over Information: Philippe Brouilard reminds us that while we are inundated with knowledge, what we truly seek is meaning. By re-examining our beliefs and perceptions through quantum science and spirituality, we can unlock new dimensions of fulfillment.

🔹 Shift from Survival to Sovereignty: Unhappiness often arises from clinging to predictability, even when it’s painful. Philippe encourages us to embrace uncertainty—stepping into the “unknown” is where transformation and sovereignty await.

🔹 The Power of Oneness: At the heart of quantum transformation lies Oneness—the realization that we are all interconnected. When we genuinely embody this truth, judgment and separation dissolve, giving way to compassion, acceptance, and joy.

Discover practical tools, from subconscious meditations to conscious self-reflection, that help bridge the gap between mind and heart, science and spirituality. Whether you’re seeking a gentle nudge or an “electroshock” to wake up from the comfort zone, this conversation delivers powerful insights and an uplifting call to live with greater presence and purpose.

Ready to rethink happiness? Listen in, and take your first step towards quantum living.

 

Transcript:

 

Philippe Brouilard:
We have all the information, more than ever before. We have the highest level of comfort as before. We have the highest accessibility to anything, but we’re sicker and unhappier than ever, despite all of this. We don’t need more information. We need to bring more meaning.

Announcer:
Welcome to Exploring the Mystical Side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from www.ThoughtChange.com. We are Exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today we have Philippe Brouilard with us. Philippe is the founder of Vita Quantum and the Quantum Source Formula. Welcome, Philippe.

Philippe Brouilard:
Thank you, Linda. I’m glad to be here.

Linda Lang:
So, Philippe, it’s all in the mind, right?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yes, but the mind is not necessarily here, but it’s not the brain. So we confuse a lot of those things. In the quantum perspective, we see things very, very differently, since everything is energy.

Linda Lang:
Let’s jump into the Quantum Source Formula. What inspired you to create that?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, so at some point in my life, if I skip the whole thing, I had a 7-figure business. We were helping people with functional medicine; my wife is a functional medicine practitioner. So we were helping people with chronic pain, chronic fatigue, complex autoimmune diseases. And so on paper, had a lot of success with patients, with clients, and financially it was great. But I felt empty anyway. Even after years of spiritual work, energy work, like almost you name it, I almost did it. And I was like, there’s something missing, but I don’t know what it is.

I was searching for meaning all my life. Even at 14, I wanted to quit school. I felt it was meaningless. And so I was like, I need to get out of the business. I need to find another thing that inspired me. That’s how I landed on my doctorate, a doctorate in quantum science with Dr. Amit Goswami, which is a pioneer in that field. I have the chance to be with him. He’s 88 or maybe 89, I don’t remember exactly. But he’s been there for almost half his years. He’s really at the forefront of all of this, the Quantum Physics of Consciousness, we can say.

And so when I started this doctorate, the first year I was not understanding anything. I was like, “What does he talk about?” He’s Indian, so very Indian accent, talking about quantum stuff – two subjects that’s not common for most people. And I was like, okay, so I need to decide what’s going to be my thesis about, but I have no idea as of now. And they ask for a student to start teaching I was like, okay, I want to teach because we know that the best way to learn is by teaching.

And I got great feedback. A lot of people were saying, “Oh, the first time I started understanding something.” So I was like, oh, I’m not the only one that was not understanding. So people need to understand more of those concepts in a simplified way. And I was like, okay, let’s do a thesis on this. So I’ve developed a program that was a 3-month program during my thesis to change our perception of reality. So we can ask the question, how many people that (are) listening to the show right now believe in Oneness? And most of the time, if we’re in Spirituality, we believe in the concept, but a belief that is mostly rational, that we’re like, “It makes sense,” but we don’t embody it, doesn’t change much.

So I was like, okay, we’re gonna change and shift our perception, our thoughts, like change thoughts, like, you’re, you’re mentioning. If we can change that by confronting how we perceive reality even more with science, with Quantum Physics, with Psychology and Neuroscience and so on, but mainly around Quantum Physics, we can shift the real happiness of people. We can shift their whole experience in life.

And when I say real happiness, we need to be careful with what happiness is because we confuse what it is. In my book is, like chapter 2, which is like the main important chapter, because happiness, if we look in spiritual tradition, they all agree on the same thing, that kind of the goal of life is happiness. But at the same time, they’re saying the goal of life is what? Enlightenment. So can we confuse or blend the two? And we can say, for example, happiness is raising consciousness. So the more you raise consciousness, the more you’re gonna have happiness, and the more life will flow, and the more freedom and sovereignty you will become in your life.

So there’s kind of two things in my program, was like seeing the sovereignty in your life and seeing the happiness coming from. And we had an amazing shift how people are before and after the program. We had 36% improvement. That’s one of the multiple results, like symptoms drop, stress drops, neurotransmitter improved. We have 12% of people that experience mystical experiences, which is quite fascinating for a 3-month program in that sense. But it was like, if we change and realize, not just mentally, like consciously, but subconsciously, in the subconscious, in the body, in the mind, like you would say, then we would start living differently. So I have so many conversations with people around the years. I started my spiritual class at 9 years old, so I’ve been in Spirituality quite a while.

And with a dad who was spirituality and medical doctor, so like the spirituality and science was already there. So, I was like, “Okay, we need to create a system where we confront how we perceive reality, and not just like, ‘Oh, it’s interesting.'” Because Quantum Physics is similar than Functional Medicine when I started. I started Functional Medicine 27 years ago, which was at the beginning of the process. There was almost nobody talking about it.

But then somebody does a weekend course and they’re like, “Oh, I do Functional Medicine.” Or, “Now I’m a coach. I did the weekend certification, I’m a coach now during a weekend.” So we see this tendency now, where it’s like, okay, if we want to bring something with deepness— that’s why I did my doctorate, because I was like, I want to go deep in things, because it’s in the deepness… and when you go deep in something, that you can transform, that you can have like those quantum leap of transformation and so on. So it’s always like, how can we bring that with more ease? Instead of like, oh, let’s see, we’ll talk about quantum leap to quantum manifestation. But most of the time, there’s lacking this understanding.

And without the understanding today, sadly, in some ways, we have difficulty of transformation. Because school system make us so much left brain. Even if we believe in spirituality, we believe it blindly. So our right brain is like, “Oh yeah, that makes sense.” But the left brain is like, “Nope, I want to survive. This does not make sense.” So when we can bring the gap between those two, and challenge those perceptions, then you can fully let go of survival. Because that’s how our brain is designed for survival. And then when you let go, then you become One in your brain, and then you can transform even more. So…

Linda Lang:
So much in there to unpack. The first thing I want to say is that you made me smile when you said you have this very successful business and you feel empty inside. And my quantum brain says, of course, because there’s mostly space. inside you, right? So it was like a little cosmic joke going on in my head. But you talked about how to shift the mind and live in a different reality. Now, so many of our triggers are unconscious, right? So that we have these reactions, and the next thing you know, we’re spiraling downward and interpreting our world from those old fragments or traumas or whatever it is under the surface. So how do you actually access the unconscious to get the cooperation to shift the perception?

Philippe Brouilard:
Okay, so I work on different levels. So for example, in my program, I have, kind of, 3 kind of exercises I would do. So, we work on the subconscious with different kind of guided hypnotic meditation, which is— some of them I call the Quexi. Quexi, the X is for expansion. So, your body doesn’t make the difference between what you make it feel experience and what it really experiences. So, if you can change that experience in the moment, you can change your future in some ways, because you’re changing who you are. So, that’s one thing. The other one is working directly in the subconscious, because our brain is designed for survival in the sense that if we work consciously, the body will not let you go to the subconscious, because the subconscious is there to program you, to make sure you won’t make the same mistake.

But they’re not mistakes. They’re just because something happened at some point, and you’re like, “No, I don’t want to live that.” We call it most of the time traumas, or like very intense things, but they can be positive or negative, doesn’t matter, but the body reacts the same way. They don’t do the difference. So even if something that’s blocking you all the time, it’s still there because it’s known now, it’s predictable, and our body craves predictability. And the third one is, I would say it’s more in the conscious aspect, but it’s confronting what you believe with different questions, different science, and so on. So that’s why, for example, even the book I’ve written, like Rethinking Happiness, we were like, how can we bring a book that talks about happiness and it’s not like the 21 tools to become happy? Because we have all this knowledge today. I talk a lot of time about the paradox of progress. We have all the information as more than ever before. We have the highest level of comfort as before.

We have the highest accessibility to anything. But we’re sicker and unhappier than ever despite all of this. We don’t need more information. We need to bring more meaning to the information that we get. So for the book, like—each chapter is written in a way of reflection, in a way with questions, and we even have a guide that comes with the book to challenge also more questions. So it’s about challenging how you perceive reality, but a lot of times you’re like “Nope, I want to stay the way I am, “because the unconscious wants you to survive.

So, even if you know that makes sense, for example, you want to do exercise because you know it’s good for you, why are you not doing it? Your unconscious is securing, keeping you not making any exercise, because it’s comfortable. So, there’s a famous study that I love. It’s not famous, but I love that study. So, they give you two choices. First choice is 50% of chance getting an electroshock, which is quite painful. The other option is 100% of getting that electroshock. So what do you choose? So if I’m asking you, Linda, what do you choose, the 50% or the 100%?

Linda Lang:
Oh, definitely the 50%.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, so that makes a lot of sense. But at that moment, your body’s in the unknown. It doesn’t know what’s going to happen, and it’s freaking out. So, the neurological system right now is, like, freaking out. It’s like, “What’s going to happen? I don’t know.” So, your body craves certainty, even if it’s painful. Your body prefers the 100% of the pain. That’s how we live every day. So, we live in the same thing, repeating the same behavior over and over again, because it’s what? It’s known, it’s predictable, it’s comfortable.

But even if it’s painful. So, how many people stay in their job for years? They know they don’t like the job, but they’re staying there because everything’s predictable, even if it’s painful. Marriage is the same thing. People stay in there because, “Ah, because of the kids, what’s going to happen to the kids? So, let’s keep the way.” But everybody’s unhappy. And then the kids feel it anyway. So, we live our life the same way. Our body and our brain. Even if we look at the brain, the brain is always trying to predict the future

to survive. So it’s like we’re living still like 10,000 years ago, living with lions and things that’s going to eat us if we’re not as packed as a group, as community. But that’s not where we live now, but we’re still living the same way. So we need to… something that’s, I would call it, the electroshock in some ways, in the perception. So we challenge who you are as a belief in the conscious way, then you can have a quantum leap. You can read a book and you’re like, “Oh, I didn’t realize that.” But sometimes it’s not on the first read. Maybe it’s on the second, maybe on the third read.

So I said, like, you don’t read a book, you study a book. You study life. So the goal to be a good CEO, you need to read 50 books a year. Just information, consuming information doesn’t change. Studying 5 books in a year would give you greater results than reading 50 books. For example, if we look at our school system compared to the Buddhist perspective of schooling, for them, they would read a book or ancient text, for example. They would meditate on it. They’re going to debate about it.

They’re going to read again, and they’re going to repeat this whole process. What we do in our world, in Canada, US, Europe… we do mostly the same thing. We’re going to learn everything by heart, and then forget it after the exam. And then we try to live in that way, but it does not bring meaning. And we know even we finish with a good diploma, but then we need to learn the work and the job that we start. So we’re just learning like the words, but we’re not learning to live. And we go at the school of work and not the school of life. Living is a different perspective.

So that’s why I bring different things from the conscious to subconscious to create subconscious in the past and subconscious in the future, because your body doesn’t make any difference. And we don’t need to relive those traumas and those kind of things to transform.

Linda Lang:
Absolutely. I totally agree that you don’t have to relive your trauma. I do think you have to be willing to let it go though. Yes. Because if you’re not, you’re just going to hold on to it. From my shamanic training, the understanding is that the conscious mind, which is, you know, our focus, our attention, and our intention, can affect the unconscious, right? It like takes directive of where you want to go. And yet so many people might consciously want a better life, a better job, more happiness, but they don’t seem to be able to convince their subconscious and their unconscious that this is really what they want because of the safety factor.

Philippe Brouilard:
Like, one of the main factors in Quantum Physics is the uncertainty principle. Life is… everything is uncertain. There’s nothing certain. But we don’t want to live this way. So we want to predict everything; we want to control everything. And then we’re wondering why you suffer, and then you don’t get what you want. And that’s the phrase I say, you don’t get what you want in life, you get what you need in life. Because in reality, we don’t question what’s the goal of life.

That’s one of the first things nobody talks about. Like, okay, I’ll do trauma healing. Okay, I’m healing my trauma. Okay, but then what? Like you said, the word “intention.” If you don’t have an intention for a business, for example, we know that if you don’t have a mission, or vision, or all those things for a business, they would say your business is going to be a failure. But in life, who has a mission? Who has a vision? We’re just living in the, like, the rat race of, like, getting a job, getting a salary, getting a house, getting a nice husband or a wife, and getting the kids. And then at some point we’re like, I feel there’s something missing, but I don’t know. Let’s buy a new car…

But we’re searching for something in the material world, but it does not happen there. If it happened there, we’re saying that life is only materialistic, everything is matter. But all the science shows the opposite. But we’re still living with this concept. And all the school that we’ve learned, everything we’ve learned from school, was that concept. So that’s why if we don’t challenge that, we say, okay, I want to change job, I want to change my life, I want to— like you were mentioning— then is it really necessary? Let’s just stay in my comfort, just like consume pleasure and watch Netflix. It’s comfortable, it’s fun, but it’s still meaningless. But if life is meaningless anyway, who cares? So we’re kind of going to that perspective.

Linda Lang:
So, who cares, right? Who cares?

Philippe Brouilard:
2 years, 3 years ago, I was in Nepal for 6 weeks, and I had the chance to do a lot of interviews with different monks. And one of the questions is, “Okay, I put you in a situation: reincarnation does not exist.” And they were like, “Oh, no, no, it exists.” Yeah, “So I know that you believe in it. I believe in it too. But if it does not exist, how would you live?” And most of people were saying, “I would live the same way about giving love, getting compassion in the world.” And, and a few was like, “I’ll do exactly like you guys do. Let’s just party and who cares?” Like, if there’s no meaning to, to life about like consciousness and growing, like, I agree with everybody does.

It would make sense in some ways because it doesn’t change anything. But if life is way more than this — and now there’s tons of study; that’s what I bring in my courses, but you can look online — there’s so much stuff that talk about consciousness is energy, consciousness creates matter, everything comes from consciousness, consciousness is everything. If this is the case, then should I live differently? Should I question more? Should I, like, hmm… It’s true that my job is maybe meaningless, but I’m making money a lot in it. So then in the weekends and the nights, I can party and can travel, I can live the life in some ways, but it’s for what? And an interesting thing is, if you know any person that died and you have a conversation with those people, they don’t talk about those meaningless things. They’re gonna talk about what the meaning that they lost here and there, the connections.

Linda Lang:
Right, the opportunities.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, and not the financials or the business or— doesn’t talk about any of those. So when you study everything about reincarnation, they’re like near-death experiences, the deathbed vision, and, and so on, and, and you see all the studies that brings in that, you’re like, that’s very interesting. Why all of this? There might be a concept that we’re missing, that we don’t learn about what life is about. So that’s why, for me, it’s like, we need to understand what life is about. And if you don’t understand this, living the way you live, it’s kind of normal. There’s no judgment there. But that’s, that’s why most of the time we’re unhappy, and unhappiness, and and diseases going up.

Linda Lang:
And I think that’s probably also to the degradation of society and our culture as well, because there is not that connection and depth and meaning to life.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, yeah. But that’s what we learned.

Linda Lang:
And you can find that in 3 months?

Philippe Brouilard:
I believe so. That’s what my participants experienced. Now I do it in 6 months. I give them more time, more space to do that. In a research perspective, the more it is long, the harder to get data because people can drop out and, and not (do) the whole thing. So I was like, let’s do this in 3 months. So there was a lot of work to do.

Linda Lang:
It can be like that too, right? Like one near-death experience and everything shifts.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah. So it takes one moment. But the thing is, everything in Quantum Physics, everything in life is about possibilities. And then the more you can repeat some things, the more you raise those probabilities, your chance. For example, I don’t like the word “chance,” but I will just put it here: your chance of getting a transformation… So, some say it could be the first time, the possibility is there, but it could take more.

Linda Lang:
What do you think is the most important to have that actual shift in consciousness?

Philippe Brouilard:
So, what’s the most important thing to create that shift? That’s your question? What would be the most important thing? I say I have one belief in life, and that’s the belief of Oneness. So, if you start understanding what Oneness is, really deep down, this can shift everything, because that’s the foundation of everything in some ways. So, if you believe that everything is one, then you’re all interconnected with everything. So, everything that happened, you’re the one creating it, in your perception of the observer effect.

So, every time you’re not living in ONE, you’re living in separation. Separation brings disease, brings unhappiness. When you’re one with everything— so if you have the chance to experience, for example, oneness experience, a mystical experience, people that experience those things. It’s very hard to describe, because it’s not from this 3D reality. But there’s one thing they have in common, is the feeling and the connection of being one with things around.

And at that moment, everything becomes brighter, everything seems simpler. So, the more we understand that concept deep down, not just rationally, but even rationally. So, I go to an event, there’s like 2,000 people in the event. We’re talking about spirituality, we’re talking about those oneness experiences, and so on. And every day, people take towels to lie on the floor, and give those towels back to get washed again. People are with clothes. Why would we pollute so much every day when we’re talking about Oneness? So, there’s a concept of, like, understanding, like, yes, we’re all one. But if you’re all one, you’re all one with nature. Every time you’re polluting, you’re not one with nature, because you believe that you’re separate. So, it’s a simple concept. But it’s so hard to grasp.

Linda Lang:
If we’re all one, there would be no judgment, no competition. Everything would be just an acceptance and allowing. Yeah. Even if the expression that that other “cell in the body of God” is expressing is not something that you would consciously choose.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, but for example, we would say it’s war, or it’s judgment, or it’s anger. That’s human putting a label on something. At the moment we put the label, we make things separate. It’s just what it is. And that’s how and why we suffer so much as human beings today, because every… we put so much meaning. And then we watch the news to know what’s happening on the other side of the world. Yeah, but if the person is on the other side of the world, he needs to learn from something. But the moment we see everything in our life as a grateful opportunity for growth… So if I come back (to) you don’t get what you want in life, you get what you need, because the goal of life is only raising consciousness.

So everything is an opportunity, a gift for raising our consciousness. When one of my friends in Canada, in French, in the French world, she wrote a book called The Gift of Cancer. Usually people would say, “Oh, cancer is horrible.” No, for her was a gift because of that. It was like the wake-up call, like your life is shitty. But she didn’t know because she was in comfort, she was in a beautiful industry. But then she shifted her whole life because of that. So everything is perfect.

The moment you say it’s not a gift, you’re saying that the cancer came by chance, and then you remove all your power. But in Quantum Physics, you’re the observer. Not 50% of the time, you’re the observer of your reality 100% of the time. So, it’s not just by chance. Even Einstein was saying, “God doesn’t play dice.” There’s nothing by chance in life. So, if you’re saying, “Okay, I’m the one creating cancer, then I have the power to change it, and that cancer is there because I was not aware of what’s happening,” So then it’s a gift. But then we say, “Oh no, because of this.” And then the person that didn’t listen to it then dies. It’s part of our journey.

The journey is raising consciousness. But we, even if we talk about chakras, for example, quick fast, 7th chakra is what? It’s your perception of who you are, your physical body. So, it’s kind of the last one in our physical reality before getting to the 8th chakra. But we get attached to this. “Oh, it’s my physical body, it’s how I look, it’s how people perceive me,” and so on. But, like, who cares? That’s so hard for people. They’re saying, “It’s my physical body.” No, I can show you studies that I can do anything to your physical body, it does not respond, and I can do something which is not your physical body, and you’re responding to it. Like, how is this possible? So, it’s like, we can say Tony Robbins, which is a quite known person today, he made people walk on burning fire, and people didn’t get burned, most of them.

Like, how is this possible? It’s not physical, logical, like, based on physics, it doesn’t make any sense. But if this happened, then how did this happen? Quantum Physics can explain all of this. And then you’re like, “Oh, I never thought of this.” So live is something, but understanding is another important thing. And most of the time— so what is life? The book in French was called Rethinking Life, in some ways, if we translate it, and then my editor was like, maybe too intense as a title. But it’s what we need to do. It’s… what’s living?

We act as human doing, but in reality, we’re named like human being, but we’re divine being. We’re way more possible than we think of, and we have tons of studies that can show that. But no, it’s not possible. This is not possible. So we live in a world where we’re so much constrained, but Quantum Physics is termed as the physics of possibility. Everything is possible in Quantum Physics. And what’s the difference between electron or our body? It’s the same foundation. We’re 99.9999% emptiness, which is this energy. So if this is the case, then why is it not possible?

Linda Lang:
And that emptiness has more potential, and more fulfillment, than if we try and fill up our lives with things, right?

Philippe Brouilard:
That’s correct. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
Did you have a mystical experience to give you the knowingness of Oneness?

Philippe Brouilard:
That’s not what triggered me, that comprehension, that connection. I had multiple mystical experiences over the years, but it was because it’s a subject that I research quite a lot too, because I was like, “Okay, what can trigger a transformation, a more instant transformation?” And when those happen, happiness increase based on research. I was like very curious about this. And the thing with those kind of things, you cannot force them.

And the moment you try to force it— if we talk about Quantum Physics, the moment you force, you become this particle. There’s no possibility. It’s already there.  It’s already manifest. At the moment you let go, you just open up to the world and everything becomes possible. But you cannot know when it’s going to happen, because most of the time when a person gets one, they’re like, “I want a second one.” No, just, just let go. It’s gonna happen in the right timing when you need it.

Linda Lang:
That’s so true, Philippe.

Philippe Brouilard:
It’s not something I speak about much because it’s, in some ways, it’s meaningless… even if it’s bringing a lot of meaning. But people attached to those, those very intense experiences. Like, from, in my perspective, it’s similar as doing a retreat in some ways. People do retreats because they feel empty. And then they finish the retreat, they’re like on a cloud, they’re like, “Oh, life is amazing.” And then they go back to their life, they’re like, “Oh, I need to do another retreat.” Because they don’t fix who they are in their life. They’re fixing themselves in a retreat, which is an environment which is different. So we create an environment, but the environment creates us at the same time. So if you shift and go to retreat, it’s amazing. So we become addicted to retreat — which is not a bad thing — but we’re not fixing the underlying cause why I’m feeling empty. The retreat won’t fill you up.

During the retreat, yes, but it’s still— so that’s the same thing. So that’s why I don’t brag about it, I don’t talk much about it, because it’s just an event in the whole experience, in the whole path. So every time I experience something different, it opens up to something different. My thing, the everyday work, is way more important. And if it’s happened, great. If it doesn’t happen, who cares? And in my research, 12% of people in my program, in the 3 months, experience a mystical experience based on the research perspective. And not just because person says it; it’s quite complex in evaluation because it’s something that’s out of this world.

Linda Lang:
I think that’s really good advice, and you can say the same about enlightenment. There aren’t specific steps. It happens when it happens. It can happen to a completely non-spiritually focused person, in an instant, and change everything.

Philippe Brouilard:
Exactly.

Linda Lang:
Yeah, it’s so interesting then that you apply conscious steps to kind of get you out of the box. It’s interesting.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, that was a big challenge, how to create this program, because like everything needs to be learned. But then like, there’s a few things… For example, I don’t talk about reincarnation in my first course, because we need to understand how we are as human beings to bring those steps. So when I talk about this course and I bring all the science that brings this concept and makes it valid, then there’s so much piece of the puzzle, then you’re like, “Oh, okay. It makes a lot of sense, because there’s no other explanation.” And I challenge all my students all the time, like, If you think I’m saying something that doesn’t make sense, challenge me. I love this, because this is how I grow, too. I don’t have the truth of everything. I have my perception of what I experience, so you might change my mind in some ways. And I say it, so if you don’t think, after the course, reincarnation is the thing, let me know and challenge me.

Nobody can challenge that, because there’s so much validity. But we don’t have somebody that we put a rope around it, is dead, then come back and we know it’s the right person. We don’t have this, but we have so much different proof. For example, somebody’s getting shot during World War II, and then in his next life he’s remembering that was his past life, and then they go see the registry and they find the same birthmark as the same bullet. You’re like, is it a coincidence? When it’s one time, maybe, but when you have thousands of things like this? Like, the probability off the charts, so you cannot say it’s chance anymore. And, and there’s this scientific perspective, and when you do research, you need to validate your data and so on. And there’s tons of studies like this, and you’re like, “Okay, that’s kind of challenged my mind to see that if reincarnation is a true thing. Maybe life is not what I thought it was.” And you’re like, so then you’re like, you don’t have a choice of like, question life because of this.

So I’m bringing a lot of concept after concept after concept to change, and at some point you cannot go back to what you saw, because you saw something that makes so much sense now. And it’s not just like Buddhism, for example, that talk about this concept, that it’s fabulous, their book on dying and living. But now we have research that talks about all of those things.

Linda Lang:
Are there any kind of common blocks that actually prevent us from shifting our reality and shifting our understanding?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, that’s a great question. Um, I would say the main blocks — okay, I would say there’s one block is the ego, and the sense of what I have, because we believe survival is the more money, the more celebrity you are in some ways. For example, a CEO can be a more celebrity in the business because he’s looked at more. So the more like power and abundance you have in your life about things, and sometimes you don’t want to let that go because you think you would survive more. And in some ways, when you look at it, the more money people have, like the bigger the house will become the bigger the wall, will become, the bigger the gate, and now they have cameras, and then they have a security guard. The more money we get, the more money we need to get, the more survival and protection and security. But for what? So it’s the same survival mechanism, but we won’t survive more.

Linda Lang:
In reality, that money that you thought would bring you freedom can sometimes be a prison.

Philippe Brouilard:
Most of the time. And the study… So if we, we bring it to this like 2025 ratio of the study that was done many years ago, they would say the average revenues per year would be like $100,000 because it’s getting more and more in today’s living. Now we need more money to kind of have a certain level of comfort. But interesting is when you look at the country that has nothing, the underdeveloped countries, their term as being highest life satisfaction, but the country that are developed, like US, Canada, for example, highest level of happiness. I’m like, how can you be not such high life-satisfaction but you’re more happier? The only difference that I found is people from those underdeveloped countries believe that happiness is getting more stuff. So, they’re fully satisfied in their living, but there is something missing is what they see we have. Because of social media… and even in monks, in monasteries now, they have phones and they have social media. It’s being a challenge for them, because they see what we have.

And now they’re believing having all of this might make them happier. And even Buddhism are saying for thousands of years, one of the biggest suffering in life is its attachment… attachment to matter, to the stuff we have, to how we look, to how people perceive us. So we create all of this and we go back to life-satisfaction and happiness. Why? So it’s a, it’s a very interesting world. I say human beings are so simple, but we complexify our lives so much. So all of this information I’m talking about, it’s been there for thousands of years. Now we have the science to explain.

It’s a bit like the Dalai Lama says, “Spirituality without Quantum Physics is an incomplete picture of reality.” And if he knows Spirituality, that’s one of the guys that knows a lot what spirituality is. And he was doing groups of researchers trying to understand, because those scriptures are very deep, but it’s hard to understand. It’s like poetry. It’s like you don’t really understand what it means fully. But with Quantum Physics now, we can understand a lot of what they were saying. Because now we understand the concept. It’s like saying everything is Oneness. Hinduist, Buddhist, the Hermetica Perceptum, the Kabbalah, they’re all saying the same thing. But how does it work? We have no idea.

Linda Lang:
It’s a drop in the bucket of what we yet have to discover, right?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, and we’re in an era, I think it’s fascinating in every way. We have like those technology now, those research that bring us such wonderful things. And at the same time, we have the other way that we’re getting dumbed down in, in reality. And we’re looking at the kids today, we’re like, where we’re going with that? Well, at the same time, everything is perfect. We all learning something.

Linda Lang:
Do you think that the collective consciousness is actually raising… or not?

Philippe Brouilard:
Usually what I would say is like, we’re getting even more separate than before. I think before, we were like, mostly everybody was similar, and now I think we’re getting even more and more… like a lot of people raising and a lot of people going down. Overall, if we, if we look on the like 20 years period, technically consciousness is raising, even if sometimes we don’t have the experience of it. If we just take COVID, for example, COVID was hard for a lot of people. Because of the COVID a lot of people waked up, consciousness raised.

So I would say all of those big events, even if we look at the moment of Hitler, after all of this, the “Nations Unies” — I don’t know in English what it is — were a group of different countries that gets together and so on. One, everything started at some point because of that. So there was a great shift in consciousness after that. But if we see it as suffering, yeah, Buddhist says life is suffering. It’s only through suffering that we grow. So everything is perfect in life.

Linda Lang:
So maybe it would be more fair to say that consciousness is expanding rather than higher and lower. .

Philippe Brouilard:
yeah, and the more it expanded, in some ways we can say higher…. yeah, because it can be constricted or expanded, but just raising consciousness would be similar. And I think today there’s like so much new tools that people use. And even a lot of people in Spirituality, I would say there’s no deepness in a lot of things more than ever. But even then, we can call it like the New Age movement in some ways, but it’s still better than nothing. So, whatever it is, there’s almost “bad ways” of doing Spirituality, but it’s still Spirituality. It’s still bringing open up to people, it’s still positive. Even if it’s not great, it doesn’t matter. So, we’re all at different levels, and it’s great.

Linda Lang:
Long path or the short path, right?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah. And even if you can be at the short path, or the long path, and something happened… you just change path and it’s fine. We always want a straight line, but we know a straight line does not exist.

Linda Lang:
And everything we do affects everything else, right? Because we are connected.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah. So that’s why, for example, if you are somebody that reads the future, sometimes people say, “Oh, is it true?” If it’s true, yes, if you don’t change. But the moment you say no to one of your conditioning, you’re changing path, and then the future does not become real. So that’s why those people get so much great results. Because yeah, they tap in the future, which is predictable, and if you don’t change, they’re not predicting the future. You’re just creating the same future over and over again.

Linda Lang:
But one degree turn puts you in a totally different trajectory.

Philippe Brouilard:
Exactly. But we live most of the time unconsciously, so it’s the same thing.

Linda Lang:
Time to start shifting without the suffering, right?

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah. That’s why I said the “electroshock” of consciousness. Like, that’s, that’s how I’m like, I’m perceived. And sometimes people would say, like, “You’re too harsh.” No, I’m just saying the truth, and you just don’t want to see it. And it’s fine. It’s okay.

But sometimes you need to be shaken to realize something. So if I’m there to create raise of consciousness, that’s my goal. I want to create a quantum shift of consciousness worldwide. That’s my mission. And for this, if I’m like, “Oh, let’s hold hands and chant Kumbaya” and like, “Life is great.” And no, no, we need to wake up. And it’s okay, those things, it’s fine. But I want to create shift, I want to create those shifts. So if I really want to create a quantum shift of consciousness worldwide, it needs to be in some way shaken.

Linda Lang:
Time to wake up.

Philippe Brouilard:
Yeah, it’s time to wake up. And I think bringing the science and the spirituality is a great way to bring it because we’re unifying. Some people are like, “Oh, we don’t need to talk about spirituality, it’s dividing.” I don’t agree. In my perspective, it’s the best way to unify, because it’s left brain/right brain. It’s meeting people where they are, and you find where people are, like the feminine/masculine. That’s what it is. Left brain/right brain. That’s what it is. Science and spirituality. So that’s how I see things in that space.

Linda Lang:
Good. Is there anything else you would like to share?

Philippe Brouilard:
So you can go see my book, Rethinking Happiness. You’ll see it on Amazon everywhere in the world. I’ve got free courses on my platform at vitaquantum.com. Everything is in French and English. My first language is French, so I’m offering free things. People can experience what it is and what it means because sometimes it’s something new for people, and when something new, people are something like scared a bit of what it is because it’s unknown. But that’s where we want to go. We want to go to the unknown.

We want to go to something that we don’t know. That’s how we transform. And that’s uncertainty principle. And the electroshock — the 100% or the 50%. We go back to this thing. So, what do you want out of life? And why are you not getting it? So, I’ve got so many people that did almost name it, what they tried. But they’re not confronting who they are. They’re using different tools.

And as we go to the path of progress, we have all the information, all the tools now, but we’re sicker and unhappier than ever. We need to confront this. Even if we don’t talk about health in my program, health improves quite a lot. So it’s understanding what life, what living is, by bringing this science and spirituality, the left brain/right brain, feminine/masculine. There’s nothing that’s separation. It’s about union. And we’re there now.

Linda Lang:
Tell us your website one more time, please.

Philippe Brouilard:
So it’s vitaquantum.com. So vita means life, quantum means Quantum Physics. So it’s living a life of unlimited possibilities. That’s what I I’m offering to people.

Linda Lang:
Beautiful. Thank you so much for being my guest today.

Philippe Brouilard:
Thank you, thank you.

Linda Lang:
And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at ThoughtChange.com and let’s start shifting from the inside out. That’s it for this week. Bye for now.