Step into the Mystical Doorway of Physical Life with Inna Segal

In this compelling episode, we journey alongside Inna Segal, renowned intuitive healer and author of “The Secret Language of the Body,” as she unveils how our physical experiences serve as potent gateways to deeper spiritual wisdom.

Through candid storytelling, Inna Segal touches on her own healing journey—from years of pain and anxiety to discovering the intricate connections between body, mind, and soul. She reveals how challenges within the body aren’t just obstacles but callings to look inward, awaken curiosity, and unlock the mysteries of our spiritual evolution.

Here are three inspiring takeaways from this conversation:

🔹 Let Your Body Guide You: Inna Segal shares how physical symptoms act as messengers from the soul, inviting us to listen deeply and ask meaningful questions about our lives and our paths.

🔹 Develop Discernment and Curiosity: The episode stresses the importance of open-mindedness combined with discernment. True growth comes when we explore different perspectives, question boldly, and are willing to go beyond surface-level answers—a practice of being a “spiritual scientist.”

🔹 Embrace the Power of Intention and Practice: Transformation is ongoing. Inna Segal encourages us to approach healing as a path of refinement, requiring commitment, intention, and gentle inquiry into our heart’s wisdom, as she describes her daily practices.

Join us as Inna reminds us that our 3D lives are profound doorways—each challenge an invitation to greater purpose, expansion, and soul growth. Uncover practices to better listen to your body, nurture discernment, and step boldly onto a path of authentic spiritual evolution.

Transcript:

Inna Segal:
I had psoriasis, I had anxiety, I had digestive issues. I had pretty horrendous back pain, lower back pain for many, many years. And from there I had this incredible experience of healing myself. And during the experience of healing myself….

 

Announcer:
Welcome to Exploring the Mystical Side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

 

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from ThoughtChange.com. We are exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today we have Inna Segal with us. Inna is a very gifted, intuitive healer and a wayshower into the hidden realms. Welcome, Inna.

 

Inna Segal:
Hello, Linda. So great to be here with you.

 

Linda Lang:
Inna, I loved your first book, The Secret Language of the Body, because it was a real pathway into communicating with your body and understanding what symptoms and illnesses were trying to communicate to us. And it’s fascinating to me that that has opened the door for you into more of the mystical hidden realms. Can you share a little bit about your journey?

 

Inna Segal:
Yeah, it was a big journey. So, you know, I started the whole kind of exploration with healing myself. I had psoriasis, I had anxiety, I had digestive issues, but I had pretty horrendous back pain, lower back pain for many, many years. And from there I had this incredible experience of healing myself. And during the experience of healing myself, my vision, so to speak, I guess my ability to see into the hidden realms opened up. And so I became aware that we don’t just have a physical body, for instance, that we have subtle bodies. I became aware that everything that happens to us is a life story that lives within us and within our bodies and shows up both in terms of health issues, but also in terms of how we view the world and who we attract into our lives. So many things are hidden, and when people say, “Well, everything is linked,” I wanted to understand more about that.

I wanted to understand the details. I’m a person who loves to know the ins and outs of everything, especially to do with spirituality. And all of a sudden, when I was 21, this ability where I could see things that so many people didn’t, it was really interesting for me because eventually I felt like everything that I had been reading and exploring in terms of the, you know, alternative…. well, let’s say alternative healing, alternative perspectives… for me, it just started to feel a little bit stagnant. And I kept asking this question, is there more? So now I’m aware of positive thinking. I’m aware of a lot of the kind of the books that I had access to. I traveled a lot and I was in this very privileged position of having access to very well known people in the wellness industry, and I still felt like I really want to know more.

I’m just not satisfied with answers that I’m getting that seemed a little bit generalized to me. And I had this feeling, like I have this hat that I’ve got on my head and I know it’s blocking me from more understanding, deeper exploration, but I don’t know how to take it off and how to access more detailed, deeper hidden knowledge, mystical knowledge that is not readily available. And I found it to be quite a struggle for quite a few years. And then I was in a position where I ended up meeting this wonderful German lady who was doing something called eurythmy. And I had never heard of eurythmy before. And I came across a book by Michael Chekhov, and Michael Chekhov, in his book wrote a lot about archetypes which I was deeply engaged in exploring. And he wrote about subtle bodies and intuition and eurythmy and Rudolf Steiner. I had heard of Rudolf Steiner from the perspective of Steiner education and Steiner schools,

and when I had my own children, I really wanted to take them into something alternative. So I explored it and I actually put my son into a Steiner school. But to be honest, I didn’t understand enough about it at the time to really kind of harness what it was about. But I also feel that in life we have these seeds that guide you to other deeper exploration, maybe later when you’re more wise. I was so curious about understanding her perception. And so this began maybe a 12, 13 year exploration into the mystical, into the hidden, into putting all the pieces of the puzzle together of what life is about, why we’re here. What happens in the spiritual world? How did we even get here? Where are we going? What’s what? What’s it about? The big, big questions, Linda.

 

Linda Lang:
You have answers to all of those questions, Inna?

 

Inna Segal:
I think I have had access to deeper understanding than what has been easily available, I’m gonna say. You know, because Rudolf Steiner lived a very long time ago, past a hundred years ago, and he was this incredible… I don’t even know how to describe him. You know, he was a scientist, he was a clairvoyant to a degree that very few people have had those types of capacities. When I really looked into what is his level of understanding of consciousness, of capacity… How did one person bring us everything from biodynamic farming to understanding evolution of humanity, understanding what the spiritual world and what really occurs there? And I guess, for me, it was the clearest, the hardest (laugh), the hardest teaching that I’ve ever come across. Stretched, you know, me to the core of my being, but also the deepest, the most detailed, the most interesting.

And prior to that, I spent a lot of time trying to understand Eastern spirituality. My first husband had such an incredible interest in everything that was mystical and spiritual from his perspective, and we had countless books from different perspectives, different people. And I guess for me there was just details missing.

So there’s a kind of an inner skeptic inside of me that needs to have so many details, that it cannot be random, it cannot be made up. I think Rudolf Steiner, being a scientist, as well a philosopher, you know, I just found so many details in his teaching that was very inspiring for me.

 

Linda Lang:
Do you think that your journey into the hidden realms was mostly mental through your conscious thinking? Or do you think your psychic gifts actually helped you open and understand things even deeper?

 

Inna Segal:
I think that having these types of intuitive capacities without a doubt helped me to understand things in a deeper way. And I think they made me search for things because I always felt that prior to meeting anthroposophical, which is what Rudolf Steiner has called his teachings, understandings, I just felt like I would tune in, so to speak, I could see and sense when they were talking, or I would read books and something in me would say, “There’s more to this.” You know, it’s not sitting fully. I cannot just believe something just because somebody says, I needed proof, but proof not in a way that somebody who is not open-minded needs it, but proof from details. You know, show me how everything links and connects, and show it to me in a way that doesn’t just come from you, but comes from all the holy books, for instance. Help me to understand them. Help me to understand the Bible. Help me to understand the Gospels. You know, help me to understand Buddhism and the mystical nature, but help me to understand just why did we have all the religions. Help me to understand the Eastern and the Western and how this all intertwines, connects, and the different teachings. And help me to understand why so many teachings say the opposite things to each other, and what was the reason for it. And, you know, like, I had so many questions.

 

Linda Lang:
Linda, I’m actually curious because you’re a well known intuitive healing guide. You work with the body, the messages of the body. Did your body give you signs or sensations that yes, this is true?

 

Inna Segal:
I love this question because they actually did. Well, they… Because, you know, in both my subtle bodies and my physical body, 100%. And this was what was driving me crazy for many years, because I would be reading something and it was almost like, you know, my body was trying to become this truth meter, so to speak. And when I would read something, go to a workshop, or go to an event, or see a talk where it felt true, I would feel this whole, like, my whole being open up. I would feel tingly, but it was like an openness. And then when deep down I felt like, “Oh, I just. I’m not, I don’t know, I’m having difficulty to truly buy this.”

I would have a sense of almost like a sickening feeling, like queasy, a very queasy type feeling where I was like, “I’m just, I’m not feeling this.” And, you know, internal conflict. It brought incredible amount of inner struggle, internal conflict, enemy, I think, because also I started so young. I was 21 when I started to have kind of these awarenesses and visions, and when you’re so young, it’s very hard to listen to somebody who is 60 and you’re 21. “Sounds good. I like how it sounds, but why does it not feel right inside of my body?”

 

Linda Lang:
So it wasn’t necessarily your own limitation of your beliefs or what you thought was possible, but it was actually like a truth barometer.

 

Inna Segal:
Exactly. And it was hard because I would listen to people and often they did say conflicting things. And I would come home and I would literally feel my stomach because I have these gut feelings around it, like, fight. And I would sit there and go, “Oh, my God, how do I, how do I discern?” I think it’s actually a huge question that people don’t necessarily know, how do we discern what is truth from what we like to hear? I do believe that in the kind of New Age industry, discernment is not easy, you know, because there’s so many things that people say at different times. And sometimes I hear it and I’m like, where did this come from? And just because somebody says it doesn’t mean that I need to believe that. And even if they say to me, you know, with a lot of feeling, like, they know,

I think that we’re in a time where Rudolf Steiner talks about this time being as the development of that consciousness, soul, our internal wisdom of the soul, where we have to ask questions and we need to understand things and not just because somebody says, “Well, you know, this is what I got.” And it sounds good, right? We kind of need to be our own explorers. We need to be our own spiritual scientists, in a sense of looking for, “How does this fit into the larger understanding of life?”

 

Linda Lang:
I think the stickler is that people’s truth barometers are different, right? They’ll receive messages. They maybe don’t understand them, or aren’t paying attention to them, but they receive messages in different ways. How do people learn what their way of discerning is?

 

Inna Segal:
I think we have to start with intention of what is it that we’re looking for? I’m not looking for just liking what I hear. I’m looking for more, more of an objective truth that makes both logical sense and has a depth to it and where I can dig into it and ask a lot of questions and there are answers. When we’re looking for truth, we have to start with asking the question, “The truth that I’m looking for, does it need to be something I like? Or does it need to be more objective even if I don’t like it?” There is so much depth and logic and awareness in it. Who is the person that I’m exploring this truth from? Have they asked a lot of questions? Or were there a person that potentially just received the answers through maybe channeling and never asked the deeper questions, and just accept and agree with whatever came to them, through them? And where are their spaces where it doesn’t sit right with me or doesn’t make sense? What is my foundation?

For instance, I don’t believe in easy, in a sense. So I believe in making your life easier, I’m going to say. But I don’t believe that things should be easy, simple and fast, right? Because to me, simple, easy and fast skips steps both in healing and in general life, and does not allow you to develop your inner depth, your inner understanding, awareness, details, because, you know, you stay on the surface. I haven’t seen many people who have lives that are simple, easy, fast, and have, you know, no depth, no pain. I want something that has wisdom, depth, intelligence, research, understanding, connections. You know, things that connect, as opposed to simplified kind of spiritual statements or ideals that sound good but don’t necessarily require me to delve deep into myself.

Right? I don’t believe in finding yourself from the past. I believe that you find what happened in the past in terms of trauma, let’s say, and you work with it in order to transform it into something that becomes deeper, more wiser you in the future. So when people say, “Well, I want to undo things,” it is illogical to me. I don’t see the logic of it. Why would you want to undo things and be who you were? You’re here to evolve. So to me, it’s like every experience that you had is not to undo, it’s to transform, it’s to redeem. It’s to bring back into yourself in a completely new way that makes you a stronger person who is deeper, wiser, more full of soul, so that your soul can evolve and have deeper feeling and color and expression. We need to question things.

That sounds too simplistic. You know, like when people say, “Well, I want to go back in the past and reclaim an ability that I’ve had,” it makes no logical sense to me. It’s like, well, why would you reclaim it from the past? If it’s in you, it’s in you. Why don’t you work on refining it so it becomes more amazing in the future? So for instance, with intuition, most people, including myself, if they have an ability, like, they just go, “Oh my God, I’m so excited, let me use it,” or they get really scared and they push it away. Usually one or the other. What I realized when I met this wonderful German lady who became my teacher for many, many years, and she was like, “Well, you know, is it refined?” And it was a revelation to me at the time. I never thought about it, that I needed to not just use the gift, so to speak, that I was given, but that I actually needed to take it and go, “How do I refine it and make it much clearer, much stronger,” by many things. One, becoming a more moral person, being more in integrity, doing a practice, you know.

So for about five or six years, I did a pretty much daily practice on how to awaken and deepen my heart chakra and my intuitive capacities. And that included concentration exercises, that included will exercises, how to state that I’m going to do something and then do it. And it wasn’t for anybody else; it was essentially for me to learn how to keep my word to myself. There were exercises to do with equilibrium, partly because most people, including myself, get used to huge wild emotions and go, “Oh my God, I feel alive because I have these, you know, intense emotions.” But you can’t understand subtlety. You can’t enter into the spiritual world and the spiritual realm of subtleties without enjoying and understanding, I would say, the shade of color, you know, rather than just the normal usual colors. I learned about open-mindedness, but discernment, to always listen to something, and often to listen to completely opposing points of view and without reacting and getting involved in it. It was like, “How do I objectively understand this?” So there’s many things that I was doing for many, many years, daily to start to open myself up to, you know, to sensing things in a different way.

 

Linda Lang:
There’s so much in there to unpack, Inna, so much. I think… I think that it’s really important when we have an intention that we have an open mind also with that intent, and that we’re willing to see more, or learn something more than what we already know. Because you know how the world works and how creation works, we can influence the creation. If we’re looking with blinders on, then sometimes that beautiful childhood wonder that holds all the magic and miracles is not accessible to us. Right?

 

Inna Segal:
Absolutely.

 

Linda Lang:
So I do think it’s really important to have that sense of curiosity, I guess.

 

Inna Segal:
Absolutely. Teachability.

 

Linda Lang:
I think of my own journey and having put intentions out and how beautifully the answers came back almost effortlessly, but not necessarily instantaneously. So you have to pay attention. And the whole idea of the seeds that you planted, some of those intentions took quite a long time to be fully blossomed into my awareness. We do limit ourselves with the way we categorize and think about things. How can we have a more open mind?

 

Inna Segal:
I think that it is a practice, you know, opening your mind. I think that if you have a curiosity, you know, of this childlikeness, right? And at the same time, if you can develop a little bit of wisdom and discernment. I teach people a lot about archetypes, a lot. And we’ll work on the different aspects of the inner child because I really believe that there are so many stages of development that we need to look at. And part of the stages where we might think, “I had a great childhood,” but it was actually stopped and blocked and we don’t know why, is often connected to this aspect of the child that went to school and was told, “No, you, you’ve got to compete, you’ve got to do this…” As opposed to, “I just want to learn and ask questions.

I want to be a student, I want to be teachable, but teach me. What do you know?” And let me question it. But because so many of us were not allowed that and it was like, “This is the answer. That’s the answer.” As opposed to, “Well, no, nothing in life is really black and white.” And we can question everything. We can go deeper into any exploration that we want to go into. But it’s that thing of, Linda, being open-minded, but also having some discernment. Again, I think you’ve got to take some time to figure out what is your discernment, what is important to you.

So for me personally, it depends who it is that I’m talking to. But let’s say there is somebody who spent 30 years of their life, or 20 years of their life, discovering how relationships work, and how the masculine works and the feminine, in terms of actual communication between men and women, I’m going to listen much more vigorously. I’m going to say, “I’m really going to deeply pay attention to that person because I feel like they know what they’re talking about,” essentially, potentially. And so I feel like rather than being jaded, we need to just go, “Okay, how teachable am I in every moment? And what is my level of discernment once I’ve heard the whole explanation of something?”

And that discernment could be based on the person and what they do and how they live their lives. You know, one thing I learned in doing tens of thousands of healing sessions and workshops where, you know, I tune into people and guide people is that every person is an individual, and every person needs to go on their own journey, with everything from food to how they work with their emotions. One of the things that really I find a challenge is that people generalize emotions. For instance, so they go, “I’m angry.” It’s like, well, hold on a sec, let’s break this down.

Firstly, where is your anger? Can you show it to me in your body? Because the anger that you might feel in your head, that can cause headaches, is not the same anger that you’re going to feel in your stomach, is not the same anger you’re going to feel in your heart. In your head, the anger is much more about confusion and understanding things, and maybe somebody coming at you and you don’t know how to express what you’re feeling, and you want to defend yourself, or they’re judging you, or things like that. In the heart, the anger is about how you’ve been treated by someone you love because the body is wise.

And that’s what I wrote about in The Secret Language of Your Body. You know, the anger in your stomach could be connected to your family, and also to things that you don’t process, to gut feelings that you don’t listen to, to difficult, painful experiences that you haven’t digested, that might also also be related to what happened to you when you were a teenager, actually, because different parts of the body tell us about time periods, often a seven year time period. And this is connected to the chakra system and this is connected to our subtle body. So it becomes very complex but beautiful. And so what I’m encouraging people to do is to discern, but be open-minded first and in particular, work with people that have really researched and studied and asked lots and lots of questions.

And also being aware of when does somebody have an agenda, what is their agenda? And where are they coming from in terms of their agenda? Who are they? Who are they? And this is literally about, across the road about everything and anything, from politics to healing your body to medicine, to understanding. You know, people say to me, “Well, what do you think of medicine?” And in lots of ways, I think that there is a very toxic element in it. And then I also think that it’s very necessary because to go on a healing journey is much longer and many people are not ready. It takes time. It takes you to develop internal flexibility, internal subtlety. Right? You need to be able to move energy through the body. You cannot be numb and be doing deep healing work.

 

Linda Lang:
It’s a lot of work, and we are used to just pop in a pill to dissolve pain, and that is not the healing journey.

 

Inna Segal:
At all. (Laugh) Right? I’m writing a book about this right now. So it’s like the different stages of healing. And so because of all of this, I also ask people, I always say this, especially when I teach my workshops. I say, “Where you at?” I know where you think you want to be… yesterday, but we can only work with what we are and where we are, and we can start to gently open ourselves. So I think open-mindedness is something that occurs slowly as we allow ourselves to always step out of the schooling system that was black and white, right and wrong, A or B or C, as opposed to where are you at on your healing journey? And how can we take you from one place to another through intelligence, through wisdom, through honoring of you, through depth, through support, through gentleness? It’s almost like our society doesn’t know how to be gentle anymore. We don’t know how to be gentle with ourselves.

For those people who are curious about the things that I’ve spoken about, you know, I wrote a book about this called Understanding Modern Spirituality. And I have so many questions and explorations inside the book. From what does karma mean? To why is it that we need to ask these deeper questions about everything? From how do we think? Why do we think in the way that we do? What are the thoughts that we have all the time? And, are these thoughts the thoughts that help us to evolve? And part of this book actually came from me having a conversation with my mom one day, and she was going on and on and on about stress and worry and bills and, you know, and how she worries all the time. She would have been in her mid-50s, I think, at that time. And I was really concerned. And I said to her, “I really love you, but I’m concerned that in this life you’ve taken this life as survival, and all you talk about is stress and fear and lack and money worries and struggles.’

I said to her, “Do you have a spiritual thought in a day? You know, do you? Do you ever think about what did my soul came here to learn? And have I spent any time enriching my soul? What is the difference between the soul and the spirit?” I said to her, “Do you ever think about what happens once you leave this body? Where do you go spiritually? Do you ever think about karma and destiny and what that actually means? Do you think about maybe you’ve had previous lifetimes and your difficult connections with people are about that and about working through that? Do you ever think about the fact that maybe you’ll have a future life and how do you want to prepare for that and should you do anything to strengthen yourself so that in the future you don’t have the issues that you’re talking to me about?” And the answer was no.

She had not really had those. She might have had a fleeting thought because she heard me talk about it, but she never held that thought, she never given herself the time to develop this thought. And I said to her, “You know, are you not concerned that when you get to your deathbed that, you know, what is it that you’re taking into the spiritual world that will enrich it? How have you made life better for yourself and others as opposed to that all the things of this world, like worry and stress and finances, they have nothing to do with the spiritual world. And you’re going to go into that world and you’re not going to enrich anything. You’re not going to bring anything except your worries, they’re useless there.” And she kind of said to me, “I love you, but I have a headache from this conversation. Goodbye.”

 

Linda Lang:
For those who can hear, right? For those who can hear.

 

Inna Segal:
You know, it left me with this feeling of how many people are like this, like my mom. I love her and I adore her, but how many people are like this? And how can I stretch people and get them to question things?

 

Linda Lang:
Thank you, Inna, for being my guest today.

 

Inna Segal:
Thank you so much.

 

Linda Lang:
Now, where can we send people who want to know more about your work?

Inna Segal:
The best way to find out more is to go to my website, which is InnaSegal.com. I N N A S E G A L dot com, and you know, you and I, when we first connected, we were chatting about masterclasses that I do and I really encourage people to sign up to a free masterclass that we have. And if you want to go deeper, especially if you like this conversation, I encourage you to just go to InnaSegal.com/masterclass and, you know, explore and watch. I love these topics and these subjects, and I actually give a lot of processes there. I always say to people, if you can connect to your heart as a process… if I had to say it in 30 seconds… and really listen to your heart and ask what is it that I want in my heart and why? I always say why? And start to get the the wisdom and the answers, then you can really start to follow it. And of course, there’s so much more. But starting with just breathing into the heart, placing your hands and asking questions, it’s a really good way to discover, or start to discover your purpose because your purpose is stored in that part of your body.

Linda Lang:
Next time, Inna. Throughout all of your stories, Inna, the message that’s coming through loud and clear for me is that it’s almost like our 3D life is a doorway into greater spiritual wisdom, understanding, and evolution. Thanks again, Inna, and thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at ThoughtChange.com. Pick up your copy of Learning to Listen. While you’re there, check out my program, Alchemy from the Inside out, and we’ll see you again next time. Bye for now.