Step into the transformative intelligence of the heart with Brian Curtis and Linda Lang in this week’s episode of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. Discover why the heart is not just a physical organ, but a profound keeper of wisdom, creativity, and protection.

After 25 years as an electrician, Brian Curtis experienced a heart chakra awakening that shifted him onto a spiritual path. Guided by mystical experiences and a deep understanding of energy, he shares how living from the heart’s unconditional space not only brings us into harmony but subtly shields us from life’s harsher blows.

Here are three key revelations from this episode:

🔹 The Heart as Gatekeeper: By embracing love and releasing judgment, you access what Brian Curtis calls the “secret place” within the heart—a space of surrender and stillness, described in Psalms 91, that offers protection and connects you to the true essence of life.
🔹 Consciously Create Your Reality: Your emotional states are the building blocks of your world. By tuning into your heart’s authentic energy, you become a conscious creator, able to heal and transform challenging emotions, beliefs, and even physical states.
🔹 Mystical Moments in Everyday Life: From profound awakenings to connecting with animals, Brian Curtis’s stories highlight that magic and wisdom are everywhere—if you approach life with openness and heart-centered intention.

If you feel weighed down by toxic habits or external chaos, this heartfelt conversation will inspire you to cultivate inner awareness, empathy, and purposeful creation. Embark on your own journey from the inside out, and discover how the heart’s hidden intelligence can guide, heal, and protect you along the way.

Tune in for an uplifting, practical exploration of heart wisdom and conscious living!

 

 

Transcript:

Brian Curtis:
I went through a heart chakra awakening, right? And I felt just washed from head to toe and I could hear the angels singing. I mean, I heard the whole nine yards, right? I mean…

Announcer: Welcome to Exploring the Mystical Side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from ThoughtChange.com we are Exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today we are talking with Brian Curtis. Brian had a 25 year career as an electrician who transitioned into being a spiritual advisor after an awakening experience. He teaches the wisdom of the heart and how we can embrace that to become conscious creators. Brian, thank you for joining us today. Welcome.

Brian Curtis:
Thank you, Linda. Thanks for having me on.

Linda Lang:
Fascinating story… You go from being an electrician to having a really heart-expansive understanding of things. So can you tell us a little bit about that journey?

Brian Curtis:
I guess that journey kind of is never ending, right? If you can understand your own heart and the rules of the heart… and the rules of the heart are pretty simple. You know, you live unconditionally because the mind creates all these delusions of what’s actually there. Because we all live in at least some level of delusion. But if you’re living from your heart space, a lot of times it’s where your light and dark connect. It’s where all the, you know, the shadow underneath you connects to your creative circuit. So that’s the only place where you’re living in light and dark.

Linda Lang:
Interesting that you’re using the word delusion because we’re pretty attached to our perspectives sometimes, right?

Brian Curtis:
For sure. We’re living in the quantum field, you know, and this is something that I witnessed in my work environments. And I was saved from a lot of different nasty scenarios just because I maintained a feeling of love for the people around me. And I realized later that that was really the only thing that kept me out of situations where I didn’t get severely hurt, in some cases. If you’re conflicted with the people around you and you’re blaming other people for the way you feel, you’re negatively drawing off of them, and communication breaks down in the body, and then it’s like building a charge, and eventually that charge flashes over. You know, you’re creating an inner conflict. If you’re not communicating with the people around you, you’re creating an imbalance and eventually it’s going to flash over in some way, shape or form.

Linda Lang:
And if you’re not communicating with your mouth, your energy system is communicating all the time.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah.

Linda Lang:
You said you were able to just deal with all the people in your environment with love. That’s not always an easy thing to do for most people. So I’m curious how you came to that understanding and that ability.

Brian Curtis:
You know, I’ve had multiple spiritual experiences. One specific one in 2000 where I just, you know, I was hurting from a relationship; somebody’s in judgment of you and decides that you’re not good enough for them. And it hurts, right. When you’re young, especially when you’re a kid and you’re very empathic and you love somebody, you know, and it gets too easy to project that image on yourself. And so I went through a heart chakra awakening. I just, you know, I love her. No matter what is going on. There’s nothing she can do that I am not gonna love this person, right?

And I felt just washed from head to toe. And I could hear the angels singing. I mean, I heard the whole nine yards, right? I mean, it’s very supernatural. It’s not audibly. It’s something you feel in your body. And ever since then, it’s a lot easier, right? Because the only reason that somebody is projecting anything negative towards you is because of a false perception of who they are. And that’s being, you know, projected onto the object, right? You. When you really understand that, it gets much easier to stand back. But if you’re not aware of your heart space, then you’ll create false perceptions of your own lack and then project that on the people around you.

Linda Lang:
So how do you become aware of your heart space?

Brian Curtis:
You know, I believe in what Jesus wrote. Jesus had some very profound knowledge. What he was teaching was a method to self awareness, to put yourself in service to the people around you and don’t do it for money. And if you do that, it forces you to clean out your heart space. And money is… it’s not a positive or a negative, it’s just a thing. But when you’re… you have an attachment to that thing, the attachment to the thing will keep you from breathing correctly. Our natural state is to breathe into one another and then be open to receive instead of actively trying to pull from one another.

Linda Lang:
So when you were telling us about your mystical experience, first of all, I’ll say you described it pretty good because those kind of experiences are really hard to communicate. There’s a level of information that you can give, but you can’t share the energy of the whole experience because it’s so multi-dimensional. Yeah, but I wonder about people, let’s say, that have heart attacks. I’ve known a couple that their heart attack was actually a heart-opening experience and they opened up to see love in places that they hadn’t seen love before.

Brian Curtis:
Oh yeah. And this is a really good example. You know, I saw six of my friends go to a burn center for a couple months. Those guys found out. And that experience, when you really looked at it and I witnessed it, it was a way for those people to realize that all the things that they were worried about didn’t mean anything. You come to a turning point and you think you might not like somebody, but when you’re sitting in a hospital bed and you’re both burnt half to death, you think, “You know what? You’re not any different than I am. And somehow we got ourselves in this situation.” Most people don’t wish each other bad health.

Linda Lang:
Yeah, you’re actually wasting some of your life force energy, projecting hate towards someone else.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah, you’re wasting your energy. You’re exactly right. Something’s feeding off it though. There’s always something that has to feed off of wasted energy. It’s things like parasites. Any form of wasted energy that’s not grounded in the present moment has something attached to it.

Linda Lang:
That energy will go somewhere to something, right?

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. There’s a lot of hungry things out there.

Linda Lang:
And then we actually lose what kind of sense we have of a normal way to manage our energy and to be in the world. Because we’re so used to having these energy leaks or energy attachments, right?

Brian Curtis:
Yeah.

Linda Lang:
It’s wild. So what would you suggest to people to really be able to tune in and pay attention? How can we help them to do that?

Brian Curtis:
We suggest just getting in your creative energy and whatever it is you’re doing, do it from your heart space. And that will create a feedback loop in your environment to see what kind of return you’re getting on the energy that you’re putting out there. The journey is all about controlling your own emotional states. Because we are creating every emotional state that we experience. A lot of people feel like they’re a victim to somebody else’s emotional state, but you really aren’t. You have the power to create any emotional state, any moment, and that’s really the ultimate power to heal. There’s some of these guys have done some excellent research, whether it’s Greg Braden or Joe Dispenza, where they’re realizing that all you’re doing is connecting thought and emotion and creating an outcome in the mind and body first, and then it manifests in front of you to heal the body. And heal the mind as well. We can heal anything for sure.

Linda Lang:
So the trick is, when you’re feeling an uncomfortable emotion is to shift that thought to shift your emotional reaction.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. You know, and if you can get in your creative energy and create a balanced state daily, and unplug from media and all this stuff, you know, do something for yourself daily. You’ll find that your biggest challenge is belief in yourself, for one thing. And believe whatever it is you’re creating for yourself is going to get a return on it. And if you’re always coming from your heart space and you know, a pure heart, then you’ll always be taken care of. The Universe loves you. Right? So it’s just a perception shift. So many feel as though the world’s out to get you. Well, if that’s your perception, then it will. You’re just creating an outcome.

Linda Lang:
It’s one thing to think these thoughts though, Brian, and it’s, for some, totally different to be able to switch it because there’s so much wounding, right? There’s so much wounding and they get really attached.

Brian Curtis:
The past has momentum, for sure.

Linda Lang:
So how would you suggest people actually go into a place where they can heal that heart?

Brian Curtis:
I think it’s a process over time of different forms of fasting and meditation. Fasting forces you to manage your own emotional states. And you will constantly ground out the idea that you are somehow this temporary thing. You’re this infinite thing that’s been created from its heart, and then it all goes back to its heart. So if you just think on those terms and then don’t beat yourself up because you’re just going through a process. And it’s an interesting thing how our minds and bodies work because you don’t even realize that a lot of times, the negative thoughts and emotional states is usually just some kind of level of toxicity in the body that your body needs to transmute and flush. And then the hardest part is getting rid of bad habits.

Linda Lang:
Our habits definitely have a hold on us, and it can be hard for us to realize that that’s even a negative thing.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. That it’s putting you in a cycle that’s manifesting the world around you. Right? Once you realize that your emotional states are manifesting whatever you’re involved with, then it becomes your primary goal to manage your own emotional states. And then create thoughts that create the right emotions and empathy for all of us that are at different levels of managing those emotional states, ’cause everybody’s at a different level.

Linda Lang:
So perhaps the first step is to look around your life and really decide if it’s supporting you, if you love your life, if this is how you want to live, or if it’s the total opposite.

Brian Curtis:
Well, learning to live life from the inside out is a tough chore. We have this tendency to be so attached to the external and not realize that the internal creates the external anyway. So working on the internal is the journey.

Linda Lang:
Yeah, totally from the inside out. Right?

Brian Curtis:
I believe that everybody should be able to get to a state where they should feel comfortable in any setting. I’ve had enough experiences that I’m sure… it sounds like you have as well. You don’t feel mortal anymore. After a while, it just feels like another experience where you came in. It’s like, okay, what are we doing this time? Obviously, we came in for an ascension process and a learning about the self. How many times have we done this? I don’t know. I can’t answer that question. You know, it feels like we’ve done it a lot to me, but that’s just me.

Linda Lang:
Maybe it’s time for a bit of a shift.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah, do something different. Right? Shake things up. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
To detach from external circumstances is a bit of a trick because when we’re in our emotional state, it’s so all encompassing. It’s interesting to me because you’ve used the term “manage your emotions,” and there are many teachers that teach to experience your emotions and let them go, let them process. Those few moments of really feeling the emotion that can let it go. So I guess my caution would be that some people think that they’re managing their emotions, but really they’re pushing their anger down or their sadness. So what would you say to those people?

Brian Curtis:
I would agree with that. And I think that’s why it’s so important to get into a balanced state of creative energy. Because you’ll find, depending on the environment that you’re in, sometimes you have to force yourself to do it. And if you can’t create your own emotional state and like let go of any toxicity that’s being projected at you, you’re constantly going to be feeling those emotions and letting them go over and over and over. You know, the healer’s journey is you’re doing that for somebody else as well. You’re always creating the outcome in your mind and feeling the emotion of what the outcome is. It’s just understanding how it works will make you realize, “Oh, this is how I get myself unstuck.”

Because if you’re constantly grounding out negative emotional states, usually you’re in an environment that’s probably pretty toxic. You know, if you’re walking in most cities or, you know, local neighborhoods and you’ve got a lot of people that are living in fear of each other or it could be anything, right? They generally don’t trust somebody they don’t know because of so many different perceptions out there. There’s a lot of people living in a lot of different realities. So understanding what protects you, and this is actually something that… I went to a Bible study recently, an excellent Bible study. I normally don’t go to them because to me the Bible is just a spiritual manual that is showing you there’s underlying spiritual truths in that book. And if you get too caught up in like one verse, you’re going to miss the whole meaning of what it’s trying to portray.

But Psalms 91, super powerful verse. And I hadn’t read it in a long time. And the first verse is, let’s say, “For those that live in the secret place of the Most High and in the shadow of the Almighty.” So in the Bible, the Almighty is the feminine aspect of God and the Most High, or El Elyon, is the masculine aspect. So you’re sitting in the secret place of the heart, right? The secret place is always the heart and there’s a veil there. So the only thing that can get to you if you’re sitting in your heart space is something else that is in a state of surrender.

The 91st Brigade in World War was the only brigade that didn’t lose one man. And they said Psalms 91 every morning. A testimony like that, to me, was a very profound thing. It’s like, well, let’s look at the deeper meaning here behind Psalms 91. You’re talking about being in a place in your heart space that the only way to get there is to be in a place of surrender to your environment and to yourself.

Linda Lang:
And to life too. Right?

Brian Curtis:
There was something else that a doctor had told me that I didn’t know. And this makes sense to me that they’ve never actually photographed a sperm making it through the wall of the egg when it’s fertilized. So to me, I would think that it’s probably the one that’s in a state of surrender, if all the other ones are fighting to get in. And then the womb is that example of the holy of holies. And then the seed, the divine seed, is the only one that’s in a state of surrender to enter the holy of holies.

Linda Lang:
And to think that there isn’t like one, one holy of holies. Let’s say, that is, you know, maybe your holy spirit or your higher self or your heart or your womb. It’s an energy that exists probably everywhere, that’s accessible everywhere, when you surrender and know how to access it.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. Because when you’re there, there isn’t anything that’s really going on. You’re in stillness. And so anything else that’s kind of trying to push or pull just doesn’t have access to you. All you’re doing is grounding out, you know, the negative things that are trying to. Because it’s in stillness, there’s pure love.

Linda Lang:
You talked about how we create our lives and how we need to change our mind. So we are projecting the energy of what we want to create. And yet, especially probably this last five years, people are dissecting the way life is and what’s wrong with it, and how this is bad, and how this isn’t working, probably in the desire to understand it better so they can fix it. But what they’re actually doing is adding to that energy of chaos, essentially. So I just find it really interesting that we have that manifestation process kind of backwards.

Brian Curtis:
Yeah, it’s just a lack of awareness. You’re always learning lessons and always ask yourself why. The why is really important. I mean, generally speaking, most people don’t want to be around somebody that’s just constantly negative and saying that the world’s going to end versus somebody that said everything’s fine, don’t worry about it, you know, what do you want to build together? You want to be a kid.

Linda Lang:
Or at least that there’s hope.

Brian Curtis:
Right, right, exactly.

Linda Lang:
So how would you suggest people actually step out of analyzing what appears on the outside world to be chaos and very problematic? How can they step out of that energy and look at things from a different perspective?

Brian Curtis:
Because without that feedback loop, I mean, it’s just part of who we are, you know. Nobody wants to be around a negative Nancy or somebody’s pointing a finger at everybody else and knowing that, forcing you to learn how to manage yourself, you know?

Linda Lang:
Absolutely. So often we can’t really see ourselves from the perspective of another though. Right? We don’t even know we’re being negative.

Brian Curtis:
Oh, for sure. Yeah. I’m the same way, as just anybody else. Right? And especially with family, because long-term family relationships are the hardest ones to change in a behavior that you’re used to engaging in. That’s the toughest ones. Right? To be able to create a new outlook on your relationship, and say, this is not something that I can’t manage.

All I have to do is set the right boundaries and show support at times if I’m asked to do something. Sometimes it’s a non-workable situation. You know, sometimes people’s families are so self-destructive that you just have to leave or you’re in a really self-destructive environment. All families are different, but usually those connections hold the deepest secrets to what you have to overcome as a person.

Linda Lang:
Did you bring your spiritual perspective into your work as an electrician?

Brian Curtis:
Not so much. I was just getting increasingly frustrated being there because I saw how inefficient it was working and there was just too many competing interests. If you put in a control mechanism to control someone’s behavior to get a certain outcome, they’re just not going to be happy about it. And, and so, you know, the current cycle that we see, most people that are working their average job, a lot of people, most people don’t even understand that they’re unconsciously, you know, worrying about something and creating a job that they’re not happy with. And they have to ground out that stress every week, you know, on the weekends, and drink or whatever it is they do. You know, usually the weekend becomes a stress relief because just not happy doing what you’re doing for sure.

Linda Lang:
And so from your perspective, the biggest issue that humanity has is our disconnect from divine love and unity consciousness. Have I got that right?

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. You know, those terms get thrown around a lot and some people have their own ideas of what they mean about unity consciousness. And I heard somebody… and I, I personally went through this, when you kind of realize that you always go back to the same place. You know, it can create a situation internally where it’s just like, okay, well nothing really matters, it doesn’t really matter. But then if you get into that state of being, then you’re going to get further and further disconnected from more and more people, and what we all want is to grow closer over time. It’s not a race.

You don’t have to dedicate too much time to the day to really learn how to manage yourself and make sure that you’re grounding out the stress in your environment. There’s a lot of it right now because of the community, the way that the group collective is working, you know. There’s less money available for a higher percentage of the population to pay for stuff, and so when people look at that as their source, then you’re not going to get rid of the stress. It’s like a growing organism that’s learning to detach from how much it doesn’t have or has and manage and create its own emotional state.

Linda Lang:
Do you have another mystical experience you could share with us today?

Brian Curtis:
Well, I guess I’ll go back to Saturday. I went outside and the next door neighbor, I was walking the dog. It was like 9:30 at night. She’d been cooped up all day, so I took her out for a walk, and she gets super excited. And the house, two houses over, they’ve got goats. And I think they had a couple of baby goats in there. They must have.

And there was quite a few. And so they’re baaa-ing at me. And then I just instinctually, because I do this with animals, I love talking to animals. I think you can talk to just about any animal if you’re aware enough. I just kind of visualized, you know, my heart space kind of projecting at the goats. And we walked around and then on the way back, here comes two goats charging down on me out of the blue, out of the night. And I was, I just kind of squatted down my knees and I could feel something in, in the spiritual realm. It was like a conflict.

Like the goats really didn’t know who I was. I was. Maybe I was a predator, right? So goats are very protective. You can use goats to protect your property. My dog didn’t freak out because I just squatted down and put my hands out to them. And then they pulled up short and then they started looking at me. They got okay with me petting them because they were just a couple of baby goats.

I don’t know how they got out, and I walked back to the house and I couldn’t keep them from trying to get in the house. I walked to the front door and these goats are trying to get through my front door. I was like, “Come on guys, you guys gotta go back home.”

Linda Lang:
What’s so interesting about that, Brian, is because, you know, we think of mystical experiences, or spiritual experiences, to be these kind of dimensional-shifting, earth-rattling experiences where all… everything kind of fades away, and we have some great epiphany. We can have these kind of mystical, magical moments here in our earthly experience as well. So that’s beautiful. You also said you projected your heart energy out. So is that something that you do frequently to people? Maybe people that you’re not on the same level wavelength, or just in general? Maybe to heal certain situations or to send your positive intention.

Brian Curtis:
Your heart is always gonna tell you what to say to somebody. You just gotta get out of your own head. If anybody cuts themselves short and say, “Hey, don’t cut yourself short, you can do anything. You know, you’re a powerful machine. You just don’t know how powerful you are.” So your heart is always gonna want to do that. That was a big spiritual download I got last night. And when I said lightning strike, it’s like, you know, if we, if we follow the laws of the heart, where, you know, if anybody asks me for something or they need something, I’ll give it if I can, because

I have no attachments. And as long as I do that, I find that I’m always taken care of because the people around me know where my heart’s at. And the Universe will look out for you because it understands your higher self, understands that you’re trying to raise the awareness of the whole organism. So if you’re on that journey of raising your own awareness, and doing that for the people around you, you have to be protected. There’s, there’s no way that you can’t be. Because that’s the goal that you want to remember, that you’re the dream maker again.

Linda Lang:
The dream maker. I like that. So we’re just about ready to wrap up. Brian, is there anything else you would like to share with the listeners today?

Brian Curtis:
The best thing that I would advise anybody is don’t ever blame anybody for their own ignorance. Because we’re all ignorant of so much. And that’s really where judgment comes from, is we’re blaming ourselves of our own ignorance. And if you’re unhappy with being in the dark, you’ll be with somebody else that’s unhappy in the dark as well. But we’re all in the dark. We’re always going to be in the dark of what’s going to happen tomorrow. All we can do is be present and learn how to create from the present moment.

Linda Lang:
And if we’re here for the experience, we certainly are having an experience. Right?

Brian Curtis:
Right. Yep.

Linda Lang:
Now, Brian, you’ve written a book. What’s it called?

Brian Curtis:
Yeah. There Is Only One Heart. It was the first book that I wrote that was kind of the beginning of my process of self discovery, trying to figure out who I am. So I was just witnessing that process. And then a lot of the ways that I looked at the world around me, talking about how everything’s growing, everything’s breathing, everything comes from and goes back to the heart of any system. And then it prompted me to start a second book because I started to understand that faith and belief, what you should or shouldn’t be doing, regulates everything. So the more that you understand about yourself and how this place works will regulate more of your decisions daily. That’s what you should be doing for yourself, for your own mental health and for the people around you.

Linda Lang:
And where can we send people who might want to know more?

Brian Curtis:
You can always get ahold of me through my website (www.bcurtis.org) or you can find me on LinkedIn. I advertise myself as the CEO of Decentralized Systems. Once people understand the rules of the heart, then we can work together in a lot better way than we have in the past, where you don’t put people in power positions up above one another. Or you’re making decisions together and what you want to create together and treat everybody’s time the same. Because you know, we’ve created all these roles in society. All those roles were based on a misconception of reality anyway. All you’re doing is trying to access the universal field from your heart.

Linda Lang:
Brian, thank you so much for being my guest.

Brian Curtis:
Thank you, Linda. I enjoyed being here.

Linda Lang:
And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at ThoughtChange.com. Pick up your copy of Learning to Listen. While you’re there, check out my program, Alchemy from the Inside Out, and we will see you again next time. Bye for now.