Step into the mysterious world of Taoist magic as Master San Qing shares his extraordinary journey—complete with mystical encounters, ancient rituals, and the powerful guidance of Lao Tzu. Prepare to have your perceptions of reality challenged as we uncover the hidden superpowers within us all on this episode of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life.

Join us as we journey into the foundational experiences and mystical practices that shaped San’s Taoist path. San shares his extraordinary story: from a lonely childhood fascinated by superheroes and energy, through a dramatic spiritual awakening, to channeling Lao Tzu and mastering unique rituals with centuries-old magical tools discovered in the heart of Chinatown. His journey is one of resilience, deep curiosity, and transformation.

Here are three inspiring takeaways to ignite your spirit:

🔹 The Power of Direct Experience: San Qing reminds us that mystical states are not just stories—they are real, lived moments. He shares how a simple meditation class opened him to profound silence and energy, beginning a lifelong adventure with the unseen.

🔹 Resonance and Self-Realization: Discover how the Taoist path is about uncovering your wholeness. Through resonance, frequency, and vibration, you learn to harmonize with the universe, leading to miracles, healing, and the superpower of true empathy.

🔹 The Courage to Walk Your Own Path: San’s journey is one of trial by fire—he speaks candidly of challenges, energetic pitfalls, and the importance of self-mastery. His story is a testament to the transformative magic that unfolds when you stay devoted to your inner calling.

Unlock these lessons and more as San Qing and Linda reveal that magic truly is everywhere—and that each of us has the power to step into the flow of possibility.

Don’t miss this heartfelt, illuminating conversation that will leave you inspired to discover the mystical depths within your own life!

 

Transcript:

San Qing:
When Lao Tzu sent me down that path to find things that were ancient tools that I used in rituals from hundreds of years before. And specifically this one event was an antique store where this guy came in from mainland China back in the 50s or 60s, where he was an immigrant that came into America looking for the dream. Somehow he had my magical tools, my command blocks and other components that we use within that was magic.

Announcer: Welcome to Exploring the Mystical side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from ThoughtChange.com. We are Exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe. Share with a friend. Your support really helps our channel. Today, we have Taoist master San Qing here with us. San Qing is also the host of the podcast The Way 126, and we are going to have the most interesting conversation. Welcome, San Qing.

San Qing:
It’s so great to see you again, my dear friend. I feel at home. I’m so grateful to be here. I’m looking forward to this conversation.

Linda Lang:
Well, first of all, let’s put a shout out to your podcast, The Way 126. I’ve been a guest on your podcast twice and have had a blast both times, so it’s high time you’re here to share with my audience.

San Qing:
It’s always those moments, those epiphanies that you have when you’re having the conversation with family and it all comes out. And that’s where I feel really at home right here with you.

Linda Lang:
Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Tell us a little bit about your path and why Taoism called you.

San Qing:
So, you know, this all starts back with, you know, my childhood as a young boy feeling extremely inspired by movies and the mysticism of superheroes, Superman, and the idea that there’s a magical energy that can encapsulate the human body and you grow these muscles. I was very obsessed with muscles and bodybuilding and Greek gods, Greek history and mythical aspects of the ancient path of any sort of seeker was something that I was lured into as a young boy. And I was a latchkey kid. So I really was left to my own devices. And through that, I discovered things like, you know, being able to see through the walls and see through people’s bodies and all this kind of incredibly obscurely weird stuff that should not be normal, but it was very normal for me. And through that, I went into, as a boy at the age of 10, combating, you know, the, the effects of being an only child to a single parent that was a radical feminist. You present these really quirky issues within societal norms that “you’re weird” because you’re some kid that draws pictures of bodybuilders and, you know, you’re into movies.

And this weirdness transmuted into a resistance within the education system. All the kids found that I was really weird, that I had this ability to craft these words. They had no idea what they were. And, you know, we get into a clash. They’d physically beat me, and I turn around and throw a word at them like a javelin that would be beyond their comprehension. It’d take them four days to work out where they could find a thesaurus in some library somewhere, come back, and then punch me in the face four days later. So this was met with what people would consider as willpower.

And so that lured me down the path of I need to embody myself and protect myself as an individual. In any case, I went into bodybuilding, became obsessed with it at the age of 10, started all the normal things that people are very familiar with now societally, fasting, competition, preparation. By the time I was 15, I’d competed a few times, and this became an obsessive obsession of mine. Most of my friends were just into the normal things. You know, ecstasy, LDS, pot. Now, all those people went down the wrong path. If I collectively counted all of the friends that I had at this point in my timeline, biologically, I have one friend left out of those 20, and all of them committed suicide.

And there was a voice in my head saying NO. Lao Tzu was already present in my life going, “No, you will not do that.” I wasn’t guided by my mother telling me what to do or not to do. I had this very clear voice in my head going, and now to this day, I have one friend left who’s dealing with serious bouts of schizophrenia, but finds solace, finds comfort, finds grounding in all the teaching of everything that I share with him, the Tao Te Ching. All these things give him a normalized sort of lens of reality. All that aside, I went through that trials and tribulations of a young boy in my teens, and then I had a voice in my head that said, “Hey, you know what? Find meditation.” I’d been at the bodybuilding thing for almost 10 years, and I’m like, well, I’m feeling this overwhelming effects of a lot of muscle, a lot of strength.

But it took me to that path where that voice said, “Go and find meditation.” And in those days, meditation was Hare Krishna’s, age of Aquarius, all the things that are delicious and delectable about the 60s. In any case, so I get to this voice and the voice is telling me I gotta do meditation. Wasn’t clear on what that meant. And I look up this thing called the newspaper and it has the classifieds in it. And so I found this little class; it was a little freebie.

This grandmaster, self-proclaimed grandmaster. At the time, I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. I don’t know what that means, but it says meditation. I’m there, it’s free, let’s go. It was in some rec center in the middle of a ghetto. It was quite an interesting thing. You, you’re looking at someone who looks like a overgrown yeti, but fear inside. I was concerned for my own wellbeing going to this part of this neighborhood in a really bad area.

And this little 4 foot grandmaster is offering this three meditation, beggars can’t be choosers. I go into the class attempting to get from my car to the front door of the rec center, fearing for my life… Noise, all this nonsense. People screaming, dogs barking. There’s just… ifyou were talking about attention, my dear friend, there was very… I felt it impossible.

I don’t know. I was told that meditation was stilling the mind. I was like, “This is not going to happen. This is not going to happen.” So I get into the rec center and I’m looking around half a dozen misfits like myself. And I tend to sit down because they’re all getting postured and ready. And the grandmaster… I had no idea how short and small she was until I sat down on the ground. My back was in pain, trying to get into a lotus position.

It was impossible, it was miserable. So I’m in pain. I’m hearing this noise, this little grandmaster that when I’m, when I’m sitting down, she comes up to you and I’m like, “I’m open to anything.” I always have that, that one liner. I’ll try anything once. Let’s do this. And I’m like, “No, I can’t.” I mean these people look like they’re out of some type of like, you know, Yogi magazine where they’re getting set up in their lotus position.

They got their hands out, they’re, they’re sitting there. And I’m like, “I’m in pain. I can’t do this.” Got noises in the background. More concerned about how I’m going to get back to my car. And she just stands there and she goes, “Now listen to my voice.” And I’m like, “Okay.”

In my mind I’m like, “Yeah, lady, that’s not gonna work.” In literally the same breath, while I’m feeling pain, I’m in an awkward position, I can’t put this lotus position together. And she goes, “Then everything will fall away.” And with my eyes open, everyone else’s blissing out or whatever they were doing, with my eyes open, the second she said that, I kid you not, Linda, silence appeared for 15 minutes.

And I got my eyes open, and I’m watching this woman move around the room, you know, monitoring people, blissing out. And I’m just going, “This is the most powerful thing that I’ve ever experienced.” There’s complete silence. I can’t hear anything. When I see her, her mouth moves, but nothing is going on. I’m just captivated by the fact that this is harnessed right now. And I’ve never experienced anything like it.

I’m like, screw this bodybuilder; this is the stuff. This is the power of the Universe that I’m talking about. Of course, that led me down the path of pursuing. Within the same week, I go from never meditating before to capturing and silencing, what seemed like an impossible thing to do. A superpower. It was literally like, this is a superpower.

Like, Superman has X-ray vision. This is my superpower. And the following day, I looked up, everything was going off. I have to find this. And so the voice goes, “Go and check out the newspaper. Check out channeling.” I’m like, “What is channeling?” And the next day, I found the channeling class turned up to that. I was like, I will not sleep until I discover what this is.

This is incredible. And the guy looked at me like, you sure you’re in the right place, my friend? You know, like… and I look around the room, and everyone is just blissing out. They just got out of the 60s. They’re all into the organic, free living, free wheeling way of life, which, you know, that’s who I really am. But, like, at that moment, my, my persona would be a little bit in the opposite direction of that. Appearance wise, it is like, I don’t think you know what you’re doing here.

And I’m like, no, I’m here for the channeling class. So I literally got in position. He called in his teacher, and within seconds, Lao Tzu entered my physical body with a beam of light and energy that was beyond this world. I was, like, “schwitzing.” I was emanating so much heat and transmuted, like, yin energy. I had charges through my body, which I still to this day. But it was like someone hit the switch.

And then everyone in the class got sticks and marshmallows and started cooking them around the fireplace because they’d never seen anything like it. And the teacher was like… I kid you not, Linda, this guy had been in it 60 years, walking the path of the spiritual enlightened person… I am all. I am what I am what I am. And he literally used these words, f*** you. And I’m like, whoa. Who are you? And you would assume that someone like that would make sense of it and know that it’s possible for anybody to instantly integrate with who they are and know who they are. But you know, this is the part where people need to understand that just because you have an energetic activation does not make you enlightened, does not make you expansive. Just because you access energy, that is just a ground level, entry level, sort of like realization.

It doesn’t mean that you’re going to turn around and next minute you’re going to have the epiphany and you’re the next coming of Dalai Lama, which I think that’s where most people get confused. So Lao Tzu literally entered my body and I am now hearing him and seeing him as I see you. And to this day, I still see him very clearly. He’s sitting right here and his energy is palpable. And because there was no limitation to the possibility, and my, my mother’s only guardrail was, “you can put your mind to anything and it will be created.” That’s it. That’s her nurturing. You know, this is a woman that was, was done wrong by my biological father who left me when I was nine months old.

And she had to then recreate herself from a woman that was a business owner and a housewife bearing a child and having no foundation or any sort of resource to give her comfort in knowing that she had the support, she went out and she went back into the academic flow and got a couple of PhDs and Masters and this and that. But this was necessary. This was absolutely necessary. So you have all this stuff. I get to the point where, my goodness, I’m channeling this guy. I see him. I’ve done what I thought I would never do. I’m now seeing this guy and I’m hearing his voice and everyone’s like, that’s amazing.

And I’m, I’m in a room of people that I think are super off center, and maybe they’re in a cult as well. I’m thinking I’ve hit a cult. That’s where I’m at. I’m in a cult. And now I don’t know what I’ve done to my mind, but I can see this very clear person they call Lao Tzu, that I’d been told is Lao Tzu. He’s talking to me; he’s talking to everyone. And I’m feeling him viscerally through my whole body. I can expand every time he talks. It oscillates. And I’m like, “I’m, I’m insane. Excellent.” I thought I avoided that.

Now I’m crazy now. That teacher was so delusional after this experience. He’s like, well, “We have a clairvoyant class that I’m doing tomorrow. Why don’t you come along?” I’m like, “Okay, I got nothing to lose.” So I go the following day to a clairvoyant class, and it’s like, we’re going to read energy. I’m like, “Oh, okay.” And he, he literally goes, “I’m going to teach you these things.

Then I want you to do a reading on me.” I’m like, “Okay.” And for me, it was like, it says here on this piece of paper that this is what’s supposed to happen. So he takes me through the system of this particular clairvoyant, reading auras, for example, and he goes, now I want you to read me, Mr. Smarty Pants. He had so much contempt for me, yet I was, like, so green that I was, it wasn’t like I had to run away from this energy. This guy had stuff that I wanted to acquire in relation to information, and I’d never seen anything like it before.

So I was like, I need to, I need to bare, bare with this. And I’m like, I’m insane at this point. I’m two days in. Who cares? I’ve stopped sound. I see this aura of this energy that is clear as I see you. There was a little bit of fear, but there was far too much desire and curiosity to stop me now.

I was like, you know what? I’m just going to keep going. And so he teaches me this formula. And I had had such an awakening on an energetic level that would be a times 100 of anyone’s kundalini experience, and then had full access to all information instantaneously within that same moment. And so after I did the clairvoyance stuff, all this stuff started to fall into place where I could see into everything, and the information was everywhere. Now, he gave me the instruction. He goes, “Now read me.” And I’m like, “Okay, I’m gonna follow the script.”

I follow the formula. And he goes, “Tell me something about myself, Smarty pants.” Like, there was like, so much contempt. And so I’m like, “Okay.” I’m hearing this voice, and this voice is telling me very clearly, “You have been spending most of your time collectively taking all your students, and you’ve been selling their energy to this energy.” Now, this energy is telling me very clearly, if you continue to not give him the requirements…. And it was a him… the requirements, which is a certain amount of amplitude of energy from the group collective that you’ve been basically, as Bob Monroe would say, “looshing” from, they’re going to remove your superpowers, that at that time was remote viewing. It was a specific type of technique that you could just see things beyond, beyond the beyond. And they said, “If you don’t stop giving them the quota, they will take your life.” He freaked out. And he looked at me and went, “Where the f* did you get that information?” I was like, “You told me to read you, and the information just came.”

The energy, which was not, it’s not like Lao Tzu, it’s a very overshadowing… It was like… It’s kind of like a brown and gray and black sort of like mass of energy. It didn’t create any specific thing, but it was talking to me, giving me this information about this guy. And he’s like, “Okay, get up and go in the other room. We need to have a conversation.”

And I’m just like, “Okay.” And I get in the other room, and he goes, “How did you?” I’m like, “Listen, I’m the newbie, right? You gave me a formula. I followed the formula. This fricking entity energy is here, and it’s giving me information about you.” And he’s like, “Just be quiet. We can’t share this with the rest of the group.” There was about 40 people in that group that him and his girlfriend were “looshing” from. And I was like, “Did I, did I get it right? Is that? Is it real? Is that information correct?” I’m so blown away by the fact that you could access this stuff. It was only in the movies; it was only from superheroes. And I was like, obtaining this superpower. And this guy actually confessed to me that he’s been doing this.

And he goes, “I can’t give up this power.” I’m like, “What are you talking about?” Well, I’m able to see beyond the beyond. I can go in into any place and access information through this entity. And I’m like, “Okay, but the entity’s telling me, if you don’t give them what they want, they’re going to kill you. You are going to have your life taken.” He’s like, “I know, I know I’m in a little bit of a situation here, but I can’t let go of this energy. And I can’t get the quota that this energy is looking for.” But I kind of go over it and I’m like, “Okay, did I get this right?” And I was just enamored with that.

I was just like, this is unbelievable. This is not real. I cannot possibly… And then I started doing reading on people around the room. And then before you know it, people were not happy with me because I had no filter. And I was, you know, I was just basically spurting out the information, and they were taking offense to. Things happen where transmuted energy, information transmutes on a second by second basis.

Things can change dramatically, instantaneously with where that person is in their own path and their own realization. But when you start just spouting off stuff and there are secrets that they don’t want the rest of the world to see, people tend to react the same way. “You violated my personal space. Screw you. Who are you?” And literally, I got that. Initially, the filter wasn’t there, but it wasn’t to harm people or to attack their character. The information was coming out and they’re just like, “This guy’s gotta go. We have to banish this guy.”

Now fast forward six months. That teacher was diagnosed with brain cancer. And I held him in my arms, he died of brain cancer six months later. And so that solidified a whole nother reality, because this guy was like, consciously, literally stealing from other people’s energy fields. And if you have access to these types of techniques, if the person is steeped in fear, you literally have free reign over what the potential is. And when you lay it out there, it’s very easy to siphon that energy from someone. So the fundamentals of the mental-emotional state is so critical.

It’s critical for the individual seeker that they master the mental-emotional state and realize that that is not controlling their experience. But if they don’t, this is a vehicle. This is part of the material state. This is the physical flesh, the mortality. And so if you’re not nurturing that or understand that you are one with everything, then it’s very easy to, as Bob Monroe would say, loosh the energy from the physical body. And so the following day, I went to Distant Healing. I experienced the distance healing. It just gets better and better, one bang after another.

If someone wants to hear about that, go and look it up on the Internet, because I want to, I want to be mindful of our time. So I experienced distant healing. Instantly healed, though, a friend of mine’s ankle the size of a watermelon, shrunk down to nothing. She was walking on it in about 30 seconds because I was using this incantation and this teaching that this guy gave me with zero expectation. My expectation was: if it says it’s possible on this piece of paper, that it must work. Because I came from a background where exercise works like this. When you train this way, you will activate certain muscle fibers that will give you a prescribed response. Strength, endurance, muscle density.

Why would I assume that this new world that I’m exposed to would be any different? And I think it’s really important: be childlike in your nature. Accept things at face value, and all of a sudden, they will be revealed to you. And so I went from that, I witnessed the physical healing a gangrenous foot going back to pink in color in 40 minutes with the tutelage of Lao Tzu. And so after the physical healing, I went through what is equivalent to a dark night of the soul. For five days and nights, I had every thought, every feeling, every emotion at once.

And by the third day, I was like, “I guess I’m going with the rest of my friends. I want to end my life. I’m done.” Like, I couldn’t handle the magnitude of everything coming at me. And I would distract myself by going into a movie theater, and I’d literally be, you know, looking at a naked woman walking across the street. How benign is that? And it would have a visceral effect where I would vomit. I was like, “What is going on? I have screwed myself to a point of no return.” I avoided the drugs.

I did all the things that I thought was part of a healthy decision. I had my own power, my willpower, as we put it. I didn’t do any of that stuff. Many of my friends had already taken their own life. I’m on the right path. And then that all came to an end. And I’m attempting to call this teacher, and finally, I get hold of him five days later, after I literally felt like I stood in the middle of the eye of a needle, a tsunami, a Katrina of amplitude of information and energy that no one else would hold on.

Now Lao Tzu, at that point, was saying throughout the whole thing, and I thought I was insane. I’m seeing him. I hear him, “You’re going through a transformation. This is, this is a pivotal moment of your own growth.” And I’m like, “I just feel insane. I feel like I want to just end this.

I don’t care whether I see you, hear you. It doesn’t mean to me. No one should experience this.” And so Lao Tzu said that… And at that point I was, I wanted to dismiss him. Can I turn this off? I want to turn this off. I can’t turn this off. He’s here. It’s.

It’s creepy, it’s scary. It’s like every time I turn around he’s there and he’s accessing and giving me support for information coming through. I’m like, “This has got to stop.” Now, fast forward 30 plus years… This is something that can happen cyclically through someone’s natural born life up to nine times within a Taoist path. Now for myself, I just took the steroid version of it and I happened all at once, never to I’ve seen it again. Yet it happens to everyone in their own cultivation practice.

Linda Lang:
Not necessarily as intense, thankfully.

San Qing:
And it varies for everybody, but it’s an unraveling of the onion. You don’t want this permanence to seep into the flesh and be the very deconstruction of what is your anchor, which helps you on your own journey here. This is about your black ops version of self-realization. You’re going into the labyrinth at one end with the finite, very intellectual, corrupted ego state. And then you’re coming out the other end, an expanded intuitive knowing that you are all things. And that is a process of path, what we call the Taoist rights path of self-realization. And we take immortality and we crystallize it into the material so that you see what we consider miracles. This is all resonance.

It all comes down to resonance, frequency, vibration. These are all the, the very evident components to this experience. And when you master that through the alchemical process within Taoism, voila. Voila, you have a system that is repeatable, that you can have a great decipher on and help others find their own knowing. Because it’s really the mirroring effects of this Universe that everything is whole. Yet the distortion is the human condition that brings you to this point where you want to… The end game is the human being with everything. Human being, all things. This is the self-realization.

When you realize that you are whole. You want for nothing, you need for nothing, you give for everything. And that servitude and selflessness is part of the prize of the labyrinth that you go through as a, as a human being to unravel and reveal the true superpower which is realizing this sentient being has empathy. Empathy is the superpower and when it’s not encumbered or hindered by the limitations of the human condition, this is where things become magical. And so you open the floodgates to possibility, because anything is possible at that point. But there is a process to elevating your resonance. So it’s met like that. So when, when you share that mirroring effect with the seeker and you are sharing this resonance, they become whole and they return to who they are.

They have a remembrance. They go, oh, I’m very familiar with this. This is who I am. Oh, I, I feel it. I’ve never felt more expensive in my life.” And this is where a lot of healers tend to get caught up in the semantics of, “I’m the next coming of Jesus, I’m Moses, I part the sea.” Here’s the superpower. The superpower is I feel energy.

The superpower is I can look into anyone’s body and tell them what’s wrong with them. This is a very broken path that you go on. You go, “Oh, you know what? I’ve got a lens of reality.” But the truth is when you expand and you realize you are me, I am you. That no longer is in the dialogue that you have with yourself as the wholeness, which is really the monologue, and then the dialogue with what you consider your source of information, your higher ascendant state, which can come in the form. In my situation, all my teachers, I have over 171 teachers… Lao Tzu, who I commune with on a second by second basis. I am as dumb as rocks. I don’t claim to know anything. All pearls of wisdom or any sort of insight that might be referred to as wisdom teachings come directly from his ability to access that state.

And it transmutes through me as a catalyst and conduit. But, you know, this is the fundamental issue. And so in 36 year path, when I look at it, people that I knew, you know, 20 years ago are no longer with us. 30 years ago are no longer with us because they fall into the traps and they stay energetically activated. Which is exciting because you realize there’s something more to this reality. Even though that’s the secret sauce that makes you animated, that makes you alive, that makes your heart beat, that makes all the things that you perceive as humanist, that looks back at you in the mirror as this mitochondria, this flesh and blood. That is the currency that we use; it’s energy, and that energy will present itself with your attention. And so people get lured in by, “Oh my goodness, I’m activated. I feel this energy, I’m the next coming of Jesus.

I can tell you when you’re going to die, when you’re going to live, what your condition is, what’s going on inside you.” This is problematic at best. I’m not dismissing it because everyone gets… they get a little taste of the bite of the dragon and they want to follow that. But you must continue to expand yourself and you won’t be lured by the baubles that are the distraction where you go: “I’m a clairvoyant, I am a channeler, I am a healer.” And this is where you get distracted. And what happens is you sit there, you really become self-loathing at a certain point. You don’t realize you’re doing it, but you are. And you, you spend and spend into that same experience.

So you integrate it and program it into that is your, your ascended state. Yet you’re at like level one of infinity, yet you believe you have hit infinite the motherlode. And so people keep feeding into that and then there’s little diminished return to it. They start get to a certain point where they burn it out for a couple of years. They start to physically feel the effects of selling themselves from an energy perspective. And they no longer are getting a greater insight to the truth. They’re just staying in the “I can see everything” and “I am everything” and “I’m all knowing.” And this is a side effect of your own ascension.

When you become whole, you realize you are me, I am you. You see perfection everywhere. And when you bring that resonance, there’s no need for you to proclaim that someone is deficient or excessive. They are just now. Does that make sense? Even though you haven’t spoken for a single second here.

Linda Lang:
Wow. San, it does make sense. But I want to say first of all, thank you for surviving your path because it definitely was trial by fire. And I’m sure you had many choices along the way.

San Qing:
Yeah, I mean I always have that conversation with JC, whenever he comes up in someone’s field. I’m like starting to understand this whole thing that seems to be reflected to a religious belief system. And furthermore your story seems to be repeated over and over again and I get more insight to that. But it’s part of the transmutation. Now I’m fully familiar with understanding what that means when you merge yin and yang as a Taoist, but I love hearing it from, from Jesus Christ because he has a little twist to it and that transformation, which is really what we do. Right? So everything is an isolating effect, of the bellows which is contracting and expanding.

You are all things and nothing at the same time. And that bellows effect is the, the highest point is completion. And then from completion, creation again. And this is happening instantaneously all the time. You can enter into that unification at will once you master your state. And it can be instantaneous or it can be a path that is through self-realization and cultivation of practice. But that whole deconstruction, completion, reflecting on Jesus Christ is his death was then his rebirth.

Which gave this incredible insight and curiosity to everyone. What is the possibility? “It’s to show you that you are not limited by your human condition. That what you consider as pain and suffering is transitory. And that when you contain it within your human flesh, that is essentially an ending to something that is a new creation. And I’ve shown you that through my death and then rebirth, that would seem impossible.” When he said that, I was like, that’s right in line with what Lao Tzu taught me.

Linda Lang:
You know, I think a lot of people like that idea of instantaneous awakening. But it’s not the easy button.

San Qing:
Depends on what you’re looking for. I’m an all in type of guy. And be careful. This is the only caveat. Be careful what you wish for, because it will be given to you. That means that the mirroring effects of the Universe, not having a moral compass, it’s your genie, and so if you ask, you will receive. And so if you’re all in, and I’m all in.

And to most people they would look at me like you’re just like some bodybuilder meathead. No, I was someone who spent most of my life hanging around dining room tables with a bunch of highly over-intellectual type academics that were all women that were merging themselves through academia, finding the spiritual sense and expanding their mind. And I’m sitting around the table as a young boy having insight and conversation with a reminder going, “Wow, you’re very mature for your age.” Now, little do you know that you’re already just reuniting yourself with yourself through this path. And nothing is ever… I always tell people, nothing is ever as it seems. Do not assume that this is the truth. The truth will be met with someone’s subjective version of that. And the absolute truth is your truth. It’s no one else’s.

Linda Lang:
Just saying you can add storyteller to your list of incredible qualities.

San Qing:
Storyteller. Here’s the thing, you can’t make this stuff up, Linda. It’s like I have hundreds of these stories through my lifetime. Let alone, the adventures. I mean, I have yet to expose this one, but my magical mystery adventures through the bowels of Chinatown in San Francisco, which is on a whole ‘nother level, man. When Lao Tzu sent me down that path to find things that were ancient tools that I used in rituals from hundreds of years before…

And specifically this one event was an antique store where this guy came in from mainland China back in the ’50s or ’60s, where he was an immigrant that came into America looking for the dream. Somehow he had my, my, my magical tools, my command blocks and other other components that we use within Taoist magic. He had them sitting in a box that he brought from China from the ’50s or ’60s, he claims, and he had them sitting in his back room wondering what he was going to do with these things. And I just rolled in because Lao Tzu said, “Go to this store down here. You have my stuff.” And his eyes opened, all sizes and sources. It was like, holy crap.

Linda Lang:
You know, it’s just confirming that magic is everywhere, right?

San Qing:
Oh, 100%. I mean, the constant communication that my mother had through all the stuff I went through as a young boy was… at some point you will find your own path and all the magical things that you ever imagined will come true. I’m just like, I’m holding onto that. If I put my mind to it, anything is possible. And it happened fairly quickly, I was realized.

Linda Lang:
Now, San, just before we wrap up, I have a really quick question for you, because in our first interview, you checked through my energy field and you found seven vortices. You never told me what that meant.

San Qing:
Well, first and foremost is the evidence. Now, at this point, you have eight, and they’re in different, how do I put it? You have different, like, grades of that energy, which is evident when you’re sampling energy. Now, those vortices are all portals to possibility within your space. These are all cultivational points of origin where, where you are doing your own self-cultivation and realization, and they’re throughout your space. That would, that would be evident to consciously four of those, and the other four are potential that are already in the environment.

And you know, the fastest way to find that is when you realize they’re there, you can call on that very moment and sample it with your eyes open. I love people being able to do that. They’re like, “Whoa, hang on a second. You’re not bull.” Like, I’m not in some lotus position, calling in my elves and angels and whatever else. My eyes are open and I feel an energetic potential. It’s a visceral thing.

I’m having all different gradients of that energy profile, and it’s real. And I always starts with these simple things they call the laogong points within Taoism. And these are tuning forks. They give you a very simplified way to access this potential. So the, the four very conscious cultivational power centers, and then four that are part of the natural construct within the environment that you have now. If you want to go and check them out, I can give you a list of where they are, and you can go and feel them through yourself. But you probably already know.

Hang on a second. Okay. I’ve got my own spaces where I’m cultivating, or I have an altar or whatever it is that’s relevant to me, and I’m fully aware of that. It’s like, hang on a second. Some of the simplest things that people get misconceptions of is wherever your attention goes, guess what? Intention flows. And so people will be surprised that they can literally walk to something as benign as a TV. And there is a huge power center in front of that TV. And people are like, “Whoa, how is that possible?” Because you spend so much time of your attention, then with your intention that there is an altar.

You’ve created an altar with, with this energy potential, and it’s sitting right in front of you. And when they move their hands, like, “Oh, I feel that chill.” Like, we’re feeling that chill because you’re entering into it, you know, does that make sense?

Linda Lang:
It does. And I’m going to play my energy field.

San Qing:
You have just in that space right there, three very clear points of cultivation. And then the other four are in random parts of the house that are more mostly in, in what you would perceive as a bedroom, which I find interesting. And it’s like, “Whoa.” You can’t make this stuff up. And when you play in that and you go, hang on, my eyes are open, and whoa, okay. And then it reveals itself to you from your clear sense that you can see what it is. And you’re like, this is crazy. This is real. As it should be. That’s the potency of what we’re speaking of.

Linda Lang:
Yeah, wonderful. Thank you, San.

San Qing:
And we just, we just got started. What the??? You know.

Linda Lang:
I know.

San Qing:
I got this a couple of times from a couple of people. One woman found my channel through one of my guests, and she, she’s like, she’s addicted, but she has complete disdain for what she perceives as me. And she constantly has comments going, “I just love your channel. I love your guests, but you just won’t shut the up” and I’m like, “I am so grateful that I can share this with you, to have you merge with yourself and identify what are the deficiencies that are necessary for you to be whole. And if I’m a catalyst for that, that’s what I’m here for.” What you perceive as something that you are looking at an individual outside of yourself, these are just things that you need to return and liberate back to you to make yourself whole. And that’s a, that’s the paradox that a lot of people become resistant towards. And that’s okay if we can give them that, that whole perfection, as we call it, and that bliss state that resonance shows itself. You get all the nurturing you need to remember who you are.

Linda Lang:
It’s been absolutely delightful having you here today. I thoroughly enjoyed hearing about your story. Now, where can we send people who want to know more about your work or your podcast?

San Qing:
Yeah, yeah, we can. We can get them down in the podcast. It’s The Way 126 Experience on, on YouTube and all 20 podcast platforms. And you can go to my website, www.theway126.com. I developed an app to take you from a zero to a hero. Basically, when you hit play, you’re experiencing this merging of these elements that return you to who you are.

The path is normally for anyone who doesn’t know anything about anything, and they just want to handle on their emotional state. They will master themselves where they can take their emotions, feelings and move them across the computer screen at will with this training because it, it activates the energy potential within you. We call them dantians, the energy elixir field. And you are, within nine weeks, activated between the earth and the Universe. Now, it’s over two years worth of training, but let’s just say you activate the first nine energy centers and you master your emotions, which is just this ground level thing that I like to start with when anyone’s on that path.

Linda Lang:
What a gift. Thank you so much, San. And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at Thoughtchange.com and we will see you again next time. Bye for now.