Immerse yourself in the transformative and therapeutic world of EFT tapping with David Feinstein, clinical psychologist and advocate for Emotional Freedom Technique, in this episode of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life.

Discover the power of tapping to unlock emotional healing and self-discovery.

Here are three key takeaways for you:

🔹 Master the Technique of Tapping: Learn how EFT involves tapping on acupuncture points while focusing on distressing memories or emotions to significantly reduce anxiety and emotional pain. Feinstein shares compelling stories, such as helping a patient conquer her lifelong fear of enclosed spaces.

🔹 Quick yet Profound Therapy: Understand how tapping can accelerate emotional healing even for deep-seated issues like PTSD and chronic depression. By effectively calming the brain’s threat response and engaging the prefrontal cortex, tapping facilitates a balanced emotional state. And anyone can do it!

🔹 Enhance your Spirituality: Explore how tapping can help remove blocks and open you to your spiritual side. Feinstein elaborates on how this technique can be part of a larger journey towards emotional and spiritual well-being, offering a gateway to accessing one’s full self.

Journey with us through this enlightening episode where Feinstein’s skepticism is transformed into advocacy. Delve into the science of mechano-sensory transduction and meridian systems, revealing how physical tapping can lead to profound mental and emotional shifts.

Discover how tapping can transform your emotional landscape and enrich your spiritual journey. Tune in and let the healing begin!

 

Transcript:

David Feinstein:
Does tapping open a person more to their spiritual side? Does it open to the mystical side? And I think I think there’s a lot of ways to get there, to get to having those kinds of openings. But one of the ways that tapping is so valuable is it can remove the blocks to coming into your full self.

Announcer: Welcome to Exploring the Mystical Side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi. This is Linda Lang from www.ThoughtChange.com. Welcome to another edition of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today, we are talking tapping. I have David Feinstein here with me. David is a clinical psychologist and an advocate for EFT tapping, Emotional Freedom Tapping. Welcome, David.

David Feinstein:
Thank you so much, Linda. Pleasure to be here.

Linda Lang:
So EFT, Emotional Freedom Technique, or tapping as it’s become known, it’s been in the alternative health care arena and personal transformation arena for many, many years. We can thank Gary Craig for putting it out into the world, and it’s had quite a bit of success by many, many people to help them shift things in their life. And EFT, it kinda looks ridiculous. Right, David?

David Feinstein:
Very.

Linda Lang:
You are a clinical psychologist, and the idea of clinical psychology and tapping seems a little unusual. Can you share how you became interested in tapping?

David Feinstein:
I’d love to because it’s actually been a journey where I had all the skepticism that you would expect a clinical psychologist to have about something that looks so strange. And my first introduction to tapping was around 1997. I was running a supervision group in Oregon, and it was about 8 therapists that I was supervising. And one of them stumbled on this tapping and started got excited about it and started bringing it to the group, talking about it. And I was listening. Oh, come on. You know, it’s like tapping on these points and some how doing something to the psyche and these other strange components of it, I I just thought, PLEASE!! But I looked it up.

There was no research at the time. Zero. Not one peer reviewed clinical trial. And so I was, you know, kind of professional. I didn’t put her down for her enthusiasm, but I kinda steered her away from talking about it in my group. But when you really judge something real harshly, sometimes it comes around to bite you. And so here I am talking to you as a proponent of this method. And what changed was that my wife, Donna, and I came out with a book called Energy Medicine, and the publisher put us on the road for a 6 city tour. And that was in 1999. Now we’ve made more than a 1000 appearances, and it’s 25 years later.

So we’re very excited about bringing this work to the world. But in the early days of our workshops, people would come, and about 15% of the people that come to Donna’s workshops are psychotherapists. Since I was a therapist and I was working with Donna with energy work, they’d asked me about energy psychology, which is kind of the umbrella term that includes EFT, Emotional Freedom Technique, as you mentioned, but also other approaches that may work with the aura or with the chakras. So these energy psychology approaches, EFT has become by far the most popular. So they are asking me about it, and I don’t know a thing about it. I just have my initial judgments. I knew better than to go there. So I thought, okay. I totally need to learn something about this.

And just as I’m thinking that, an opportunity emerges. We were doing a weekend workshop in a city where one of the participants came up to me at the end of the workshop and told me that she was a psychologist and that she and some of her colleagues would meet once a month, and they were meeting that Sunday night in a few hours. And their topic that evening was going to be these new tapping therapies. And I thought, okay. It’s probably as good a way as any to get introduced to this because if these psychologists are interested, maybe there’s something more to it than I realized. And so I show up. It’s being held at someone’s house, and there’s about a dozen psychologists. And one of the psychologists was learning this tapping and wanted to demonstrate it for the group.

So he got one of his colleagues that was in the group to bring in one of his patients who was a woman who had severe claustrophobia and was not responding to the treatment. So that was the setup. And the therapist and the client in the middle of the room facing each other in chairs, and the rest of us are in a circle around them just watching. And it begins, and I’m kind of curious how he’s gonna start this and how he’s gonna introduce the method. That seems so strange. But he doesn’t introduce it right away. He starts off asking her a little bit about her history, and I’m very comfortable with that. That’s a very good way, very sane way to start.

Wasn’t crazy yet. Then he asked her about her history trying to overcome it, and she tried everything she could think of, including working with a couple of different therapists, and nothing was touching it. And then he asked her to imagine one of the places that she was afraid to be in. It was elevators that are closed, and they really triggered her claustrophobia. So he asked her to imagine being in an elevator and rated from 0 to 10 with 10 being extreme anxiety, extreme reaction, and 0 being none at all. And she rated it at a 10. And I’m still comfortable because that’s a technique that I also use, and it’s used in many therapies. I used it in what’s called systematic desensitization.

And so I thought, okay. This is this is kinda standard. This is good. But then he has her do these strange incantations of tapping on points on her skin and saying, fear of elevators. Fear of elevators. Fear of elevators. Fear of elevators. Fear of and I’m watching.

I can’t believe it. I mean, these are posthypnotic suggestions that he’s having her give herself. This is gonna make it worse. It’s gonna kind of get at me for her. And so I’m sitting there wondering, is this malpractice? Am I obligated to report him? But after about 2 minutes of it, he asks her to give it another rating, and it’s gone from a 10 down to a 7. And so I wonder what happened there. Just kind of observing, and he does another round. The tapping includes other strange things that she was doing with her eyes and counting and humming.

But after another 2 minutes, it’s gone down to a 5. And I’m wondering, can I believe my eyes or my beliefs? Then I get an idea. Okay. I think I know what’s happening. That this is a version of the Stockholm Effect where she’s become affectionate towards him and does not want to embarrass him in front of his colleagues. And then he has to do another round. You tap on yourself in this method, and you say the words. And after that, it’s gone back up to a 7.

And so I’m thinking, I knew it wouldn’t work. You know? So these are just fluctuations you get when you’re doing it in front of a group. But he asked her what she was thinking that caused it to go from a 5 back up to a 7. And she says, oh, I remembered a incident from when I was about 8 that I hadn’t thought of for decades. And I was playing with my older brothers and some of their friends, and we had this big appliance box. And 1 of us would get in it and the others would push it. And it was great fun. But when it was her turn, they pushed it against the wall, and the only side that was open, the flaps were pushed against the wall.

And the brothers and their friends left just kind of making fun of her a little bit, and she was there, and she was too light to maneuver her way out of it. And she’s in total darkness and alone, and she starts screaming and screaming and screaming and screaming. And she doesn’t know how long she was screaming, but and she’s telling us she’s getting aroused more and more so that now she’s clearly a 10, and the therapist just kinda meets her and has her begin to tap on points. And when someone’s really in that kind of state of panic, then you don’t need words. They’re already there, and you just need to do the tapping. So he does the tapping until she’s calmed down quite a bit. And then he introduces words such as, this is terrifying. This is the most terrifying thing that ever happened in my life.

I can’t get out of this. I’m really trapped. And as you say those words and do the tapping, it releases with I will explain later what what actually happens in the amygdala and other parts of the emotional system, the limbic system. But once she is tapping with these words, they get it so that she has no arousal at all. She’s able to remember the scene without any sense of distress. She can talk about it without pushing herself into that high anxiety. So the SUD, the subject Subjective Units of Distress are down to a 0. And then he focuses on on other aspects of it.

So he focuses in on her resentment towards her brothers and there’s her sense of betrayal that they did this to her and other aspects. This was the root of this lifelong phobia. So they tap on all of that. You get each aspect down to 0, and then they go back to elevators. And even though they haven’t been focusing on elevators, elevators last was a 7, it’s now down to a 3. So they tap on that, and they get that down to a 0. I’m just watching and just really confused about what just happened, and was that real? And psychologists like to test things so somebody gets the idea that since we’re in a living room, there’s a coat closet, and she could just step into the coat closet, and we’d really have a test of whether this was effective. And so she agrees to that.

The therapist is very responsible telling her that we’re not trying to prove anything to anybody. We don’t want to retraumatize you. If you get even a little bit anxious, just open that door and step out. So she was in complete control. She steps in, closes the door, and about half a minute passes, and it’s quiet. And then a minute and that’s a long time, actually, with that sitting. And you can imagine a dozen therapists all hovering around this closet door watching it. And then it seemed to me it was about 3 minutes.

It was a long time. And then the therapist finally knocks on the door and says, are you okay in there? And she opens the door and comes out exuberant. She’s just never had an experience like this in her memory where she could be in a cold space and feel totally calm. And everybody’s really excited about what they’ve just seen except for me. I’m sitting there thinking, okay. I get it. I know what’s happening here. This is a social psychology experiment to demonstrate how gullible psychologists can be.

Must be somebody’s doctoral dissertation, but it wasn’t. I’ve seen now some version of this happen again and again and again. So that was the one evening that really converted me to get training in this. Because I’d already been a therapist for 30 years at that point, and I saw how much faster and more effective I was already considered a good therapist. I had a waiting list often. I was well regarded in my community, but this turbocharged it. It wasn’t that I had to forget everything I already knew, but I could integrate the tapping into it. And it made it go much faster, be more effective, be more lasting, gave people self help tools that they could use at home when they slip backwards.

They could really move forward, or they could use them to make progress. It wasn’t always a one session cure like that one, but often enough, you can do a tremendous amount in one session. So that that was impressive. If you’re working with a more severe kind of condition like PTSD or chronic depression, you’re not gonna get away with just 1 or 2 sessions, but you can immediately give people tools that give them some relief. And over a period of 8 or 10 or 12 sessions, you can see a tremendous progress in really deep psychological problems.

Linda Lang:
So it obviously was enough to inspire you to explore it, and the results that you were seeing must speak for themselves because here you are an advocate for it.

David Feinstein:
Very much. The first book was called The Promise of Energy Psychology. Now we’re really talking about the reality of energy psychology, and that’s, that’s a big change. The research also has shown us a lot about how it works. And that’s a big piece because, like, my first reaction everybody’s first reaction is what could tapping possibly have to do with changing these deep emotional learnings and and deep patterns and deep symptoms? There’s more than a 100 tapping books out there now, and we wanted to to really give the feel something new.

Linda Lang:
I would love to unpack so many things. Let’s start with how the tapping actually works because it does look kinda ridiculous, but you’re tapping for the most part on meridians or acupressure points. So share with us how it works.

David Feinstein:
That’s a great question because it really goes right to the heart of people’s skepticism. It’s it’s like that experience that I had. Should I believe my eyes, or should I believe my beliefs? Because it it’s so odd looking. But there’s actually now research that really shows us how it works. So the first thing that you need to understand is that the acupuncture points have a very different electrical configuration than other areas of the skin. Specifically, they conduct electricity. So that’s that’s the first thing. They have less electrical resistance, more conductivity.

The second thing is that they, like many other areas of the skin, they have some large molecules. And when you apply pressure to those molecules, either by tapping on them or in acupuncture with needles or other other means. But but in our case, tapping on them, starts a process that is called mechanosensory transduction. That’s a big term, but what it means is that mechanical pressure is converted into electricity. It’s called piezoelectricity. And that is not coming from energy psychology. That’s known in physics and biology. So you have this tapping and these large molecules that are part of the acupuncture point being tapped, part of those cells, that creates an electrical current.

So that’s the second piece. The third piece is, well okay. So you have an electrical charge, a signal. Where does that signal go? And where that signal goes is it goes to whatever part of the brain is activated. It becomes like a magnet. It’s activated by your words or what you’re imagining. So, for the woman who is thinking about an elevator, her amygdala goes into a threat response. And that activation draws the electricity of the acupuncture point to that area.

Now, how does it get there? The way it gets there is very interesting because you mentioned that these acupuncture points are on what is called a meridian. And meridians are energy pathways. And one of the reasons that energy psychology, and actually all of acupuncture, has met with so much resistance by the most conventional of the conventional thinkers is that no one could find the meridians. They weren’t in the nervous system. They weren’t in the cardiovascular system. Where where is this network that moves energy all around the body? And I studied at Harvard quite a while ago, I think it was, like, 2002, using ultrasound found a relationship between the connective tissue and the meridians, that the meridians run along the connective tissue, which is part of why they were so invisible. And connective tissue includes a lot of collagen.

And collagen is a semiconductor, which means that that signal that you’re tapping on can move up the meridian at the speed of electricity, which is much faster than if it was going along the nervous system where it has to go from synapse to neuron to synapse to neuron to synapse. It goes. So, you’re tapping and it gets attracted by the part of the brain that’s been activated. Now, what happens when it gets there? Well, in acupuncture, understanding is that the work of the acupuncture point is to do what is needed in the body. It’s very holistic. It’s very oriented towards giving balance. So if the amygdala is in this high threat response, you’re tapping and you’re sending these signals that now are gonna see that that threat response is out of balance. And so they’re going to try and bring it back to homeostasis, back into balance.

So they have a deactivating signal approach to it. So they’re bringing it down. So that’s why she was able in the tapping to so quickly become calm. And now she’s able to think about the elevator or other enclosed space without going into the activation, without having the experience of terror, without reliving earlier experiences. So that’s that’s one piece of how it works. There’s another piece that is also important, and this piece usually happens earlier in treatment. But as the session moves along and there’s less activation, the problem solving parts of the brain also come online. So the prefrontal cortex is maybe trying to figure out how to better manage the distress or how to better manage planning or anything that the executive functions.

And so they are also attracting the acupuncture signals, which also are kind of recognizing that this is an activity that needs more juice. So it increases the activation. So it can decrease the activation in areas that are overcharged or increase activation in areas that need more energy, literally, that need more blood. So problem solving. So it improves problem solving and management. So those are the basic steps that happen, but there’s still another one. And the last one is called reconsolidation, which is that anytime you bring up a memory or a situation, you have a mental model that controls that area of your life. And that mental model usually doesn’t change.

As long as everything’s the same, it doesn’t change. Every time she rides in an elevator, she gets terrified. It just reinforces the mental model. Every time she thinks about an elevator, she gets terrified. It reinforces the mental model. But now, she’s thinking of being in an elevator and she’s now feeling terrified. Wow. Something really changed.

That’s the ingredient. That surprise is the ingredient for changing mental models so that what the mental model predicts is not what happened. What the mental model predicts is not what happened, then the mental model reconsolidates. That is it reforms itself so that you can very quickly begin to change these deep emotional learnings. And that’s basically how I think that the tapping works.

Linda Lang:
Oh, David, that’s fine and dandy if you’re tapping on an emotional issue or if you’re tapping on perhaps a behavioral pattern. But EFT also works often on physical issues that you might not have any inkling what the emotional underbelly of it is. So how does that work?

David Feinstein:
Well, it’s exactly that emotional underbelly that you don’t know about that is really helping drive that physical condition. And so by tapping, even if you’re not aware that that’s at play, it’s still going to you know, in your brain, the the processes are still going to be happening. So pain is a really good example because it’s so effective with chronic pain. So you have chronic pain, and you do the tapping on the pain and all the physical sensations of the pain. And as that decreases the pain response, it also is working at the emotional level so that you have all of that going on. There’s more of an answer to your question. It’s a very good question, which is, I believe that beyond the emotions, that the body does respond to energy work in various ways. So if you are tapping on an acupuncture points on the meridians that get the whole meridian system into a better flow, that impacts the physical structure that that a lot of illness the signature of a illness energetically is often imbalances or blocks or disharmonies.

And so by working with the meridians, you are really beginning to deal with that as well. So I’ve been surprised actually by how many conditions just tapping alone is able to help with and more biased towards Donna’s energy work where she works with 9 different energy systems, whereas with energy psychology, we’re really only working with the meridians. However, as I understand it more deeply, if you really change things and get better balance and flow on the meridians, that impacts the chakras, that impacts the aura. So these systems do have interplay with one another. So that becomes a bigger, much more complex, dynamic. But we do, we do see tapping working with issues that go beyond the emotional issues. And and if I may also take it to the other side, does tapping open a person more to their spiritual side? Does it open to the mystical side? And I think I think there’s a lot of ways to get there, to get to having those kinds of openings. But one of the ways that tapping is so valuable is it can remove the blocks to coming into your full self.

It can remove the blocks. It can even cleanse the doors of perception in some ways as you remove those emotional blocks. So I think your your program is beautiful, and I think, you know, tapping isn’t the only tool that that you would want to use for for going to those higher realms, but I think it can be a very valuable tool in that.

Linda Lang:
Well, thank you, David. I appreciate that. I learned how to tap when Gary Craig was running his organization back in probably like, I don’t know, the eighties, maybe. One of the things that really tripped people up is how to get to the root cause and having maybe mediocre results if they didn’t learn how to do that investigative work while they were tapping. So maybe there was a perception that there had to be some type of intuitiveness available. I kinda think maybe it’s more of self-awareness because I think the unconscious mind gives you little tidbits as you’re tapping of where to go next and where to go next. But I did see a number of people just, like, kind of fall away from it because of that. And then there are many other people obviously who stuck with it.

So I wonder what you would say to people about working on themselves and how to follow those bread crumbs that their unconscious mind or their subconscious gives them to help fine tune what to tap on exactly.

David Feinstein:
Yeah. Another great question, Linda. Chapter 3 of our book is called The Detective Work, and it totally addresses that because you’re right. There are limits. You can only go so high unless you really do get to more root causes. And there’s an expression, it’s it’s not only in energy psychology, but it’s peeling away the layers of the onion. And one of the things to keep in mind is that whatever you see, if you can resolve it, something else, another layer of the issue is going to become evident for you. And that you may need to, and we wrote our book largely as a self help book, but there are levels where you really need a coach or someone that that has an outside perspective to really help you see where those layers of the onion are because sometimes they’re right there, and you just don’t know that they’re there.

David Feinstein:
But I do agree that there are many issues where it’s important to to go deeper. There there are issues that that are not available to memory, you know, prenatal or early infancy where before language was formed, before there’s any way to really have a detailed sort of vivid memory that you can understand. That’s that’s trickier. But even with that, as you keep going deeper layer by layer, it seems that those deepest layers also get touched even though you don’t don’t really know how to track what’s happening.

Linda Lang:
And I would like to say that there is a lot of work you can do on your own with this modality. Absolutely. I share a little story with you, David, if you don’t mind. And it was probably back in the nineties where a group of people in my area asked me to teach a EFT workshop, to give them the basics of how to do it, to tap through the points. And as I was doing it and I’m tapping on myself, a memory came up for me from when I was, like, maybe 13 or 14 years old. And it was so fascinating to me because it was like I was in the memory, and I had all the emotions of that memory. And here I am in this room, tapping and teaching this this class, something I hadn’t thought about,

I don’t know, maybe in 20 years or longer, was alive and well in my subconscious. And I’m grateful for that, of course, because I was able to tap it out. And I remembered tapping saying, I can’t believe this as I’m going through it because I couldn’t believe how vivid the memories were.

David Feinstein:
It’s amazing, isn’t it?

Linda Lang:
It totally is. It totally is. And back in those days, we had maybe slightly different, protocol that we tapped, slightly different points. Maybe it was because it was a long form where all the finger meridians were included and the, and the gamma point on the back of the hand and not the crown. So I’m curious as to why it shifted.

David Feinstein:
There are hundreds of acupuncture points on the body depending on the system that you’re using. They they were identified, you know, 1000 of years ago, and and many of them have stayed consistent. The best story is that a mummy was found 5000 years frozen high up in the mountains, and the mummy had tattooed on the skin certain points. And those points corresponded with acupuncture points that are used for digestion issues. And they did what’s called a forensic analysis on the mummy and found out that this person had digestive issues. So many of the points that their understanding has not changed. But if you’re only choosing 8 to 12 points, which is kind of what’s most typical for EFT type tapping, you you have a lot to choose from. And my opinion is that there are many sets of points that will work.

Many practitioners will just stay with the ones that are taught in EFT. And those do evolve partially out of convenience that it’s more convenient to tap, you know, 12 points than 16 points, including all the finger points. One of Gary Craig’s great contributions was saying, let’s do what works. And so he was experimenting to just see what works. He inherited the method from Roger Callahan’s Thought Field Therapy and said that, you know, Callahan’s approach he felt was too complex. And he said there is a one size fits all approach. So Callahan might have a different set of points for grief and a different set of points for anger and a different set of points for shame, etcetera. But but Gary said, Okay.

Just this set of points is all you need. And then it evolved slightly, but it stayed pretty much with his original set of points. I mean, Donna’s and, like, the book that you showed, The Promise of Energy Psychology was written with Gary Craig. And Donna added a couple points to it that she felt were important, and he didn’t object: the, heart chakra, tapping on the heart chakra and tapping on the seam large intenstine points that are on the seam of the pants between the knee and the hip. She thought that those points really accelerate things. So, so that that became part of our way of doing it, but it’s not necessarily the way that most other EFT practitioners use it.

Linda Lang:
And can we talk a little bit about the importance of this setup statement?

David Feinstein:
It’s so important. Thank you. So the the core idea is that if you’re trying to change something in yourself, that that trying to change it is a way of not accepting it. So I want to get over my fear of elevators, and my fear of elevators is bad. My fear of elevators is a part of me that I reject. And when you set up that kind of relationship with a part of your psyche, it gets defensive. It becomes less eager to change. Whereas EFT in the setup statement, it embraces the issue, embraces the symptom, recognizes that the symptom is part of trying to solve a problem that you really would like to solve, just not with the symptom.

So what you do with the setup statement is that you make a statement of what you’re trying to change. So it’s in the format of “even though I have this lifelong terror of elevators…” and what you do while you’re, saying it is you work with some points that tend to hold energy. And so we teach people to find sore spots on the chest. These are neuro-lymphatic points that just get clogged through everyday use of the body, and most people will easily find something that is a little tender. So you say that along with that first phrase even though I have had this fear of elevators for all my life. So you’re you’re naming the issue that you’re trying to change, and then you follow-up with a statement of total self acceptance such as I deeply love myself and accept my feelings. So what you’re doing there is you’re pairing the symptom with a memory of embracing yourself. And and in part because you’re doing the energy work, those become associated with one another.

So now when think of the symptom or feel the symptom, it is attached to this self acceptance. And then as you do further work, you change the second part of it. So you look at the choices, for instance. So you might say, “even though I have this fear of elevators, I choose to know that I am strong in many other areas of my life, and now I’m focusing on this area.” So you’re you’re saying something that’s affirmative, and you’re really carrying again the fear with something affirmative, something positive. So that’s what the setup statement does.

Linda Lang:
And if you don’t do the setup statement, does EFT still work?

David Feinstein:
Well, any component can be dropped, but I think that you have a higher success rate if you use the setup statement. I think you have a higher success rate if you use what’s called the 9 gamma. I call it the integration sequence. But lots of people just tap. Even the words aren’t necessary, particularly in a situation where, for instance, someone has just been traumatized, like when the woman was talking about her being trapped in that enclosed space, she didn’t need words. Right then, all she needed was the deactivation signals to go to her brain, which is already activated. So it just brings it down. So, so I think, yes, you can do it without the setup statement, and some people do.

David Feinstein]:
But I think the setup statement is pretty important.

Linda Lang:
I could see how if the issue was really active, if it was a 10 out of 10 or higher, that you could really jump in and and start moving that energy right away. But I do think that it does help you get cooperation with your subconscious if you, if you put that in there. Right?

David Feinstein:
Yeah. Well state it. Yes. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
And you talked about the 9 G spot, the gamut spot. So that’s right right here.

David Feinstein:
Between the ring finger and the little finger, the bridge here. And I like to have people tap it with with 4 fingers. It’s what’s called a triple warmer point, and the triple warmer is the meridian that governs the fight-flight response, and it also governs habits. So it’s a, it’s a very powerful point. You know, the the meridian goes along there, so you’re tapping on several of the points. It’s a powerful place to tap.

Linda Lang:
And so you think that also helps with integration?

David Feinstein:
Yes. I do. I do. And that what we use is humming, which activates the right side of the brain. Counting activates the left side of the brain. We use eye movements, which activate other areas of the brain. So you’ve been working really intensely and using the wording on your issue, then you pause. And you just do, like, a brain cleanup so that when you go back to it, you’re you’re sort of, like, taking a deep breath and really gotten things, ready for the next round.

Linda Lang:
Perfect. Perfect. David, I’ve had a look through your book, and to me, it is like a bible for EFT. It’s got everything under the sun, including some case studies. So for anyone who would like to experiment with EFT or go deeper into their practice, it’s a great resource. Where can we send people who might like to know more information?

David Feinstein:
Thank you, Linda. We have a website that they can go to, www.energytapping.com.

Linda Lang:
Perfect. Perfect. Thank you for being my guest, David.

David Feinstein:
Absolute pleasure, Linda. You ask really great questions.

Linda Lang]:
Thank you. And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at www.ThoughtChange.com. Explore other ways of energy medicine and how that might help you. That’s it for this week. I’ll see you again next time. Bye for now.