Step into the transformative world of ancestral healing with intuitive healer Joy Baker on this week’s episode of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. Join host Linda Lang as she and Joy dive deep into how our ancestral patterns and generational conditioning shape who we are—and how we can break free to create the life we truly desire.

In this enlightening conversation, Joy shares her wisdom on the unseen influences passed down through generations. She explains how a staggering 80% of our core beliefs are imprinted by age four, with much of our identity shaped by unconscious family stories, traumas, and patterns. But there is hope: as Joy lovingly reminds us, we are not defined by our past—we have the power and support of the universe to rewrite our story.

Here are three inspiring takeaways from the episode:

🔹 Recognize Ancestral Conditioning: Understanding the origin of your limiting patterns is the first step to personal freedom. Joy guides listeners to notice where they feel stuck—be it with money, relationships, or self-worth—and to trace these patterns back through generations.

🔹 Break Free Through Awareness and Kindness: Self-awareness and self-compassion are transformative tools. By becoming aware of inherited beliefs, speaking kindly to ourselves, and consciously choosing new responses, we can shift both our emotional reality and our physical bodies.

🔹 Heal for Future (and Past) Generations: The healing we do ripples out, not just healing ourselves but also releasing burdens for our ancestors and future descendants. Joy’s channeled ancestral healing process invites angelic help and collective release, bringing lightness and freedom to all.

Tune in for this soul-nourishing episode and discover practical ways to partner with your ancestors, shift generational patterns, and step boldly onto your soul’s path. Don’t miss Joy’s guided healing—an empowering invitation to embrace your limitless potential.

 

Transcript:

Joy Baker:
We’ve got our conditioning. We receive approximately 80% of our conditioning by the time we’re four years old. And by conditioning, mean thoughts, beliefs, emotions, behaviors, what you believe about yourself, about others, about money, everything. You receive approximately 80% of that by the time you’re you’re 4, approximately 95% by the time you’re 12. And the thing is, your parents have received that from their parents.

Announcer: Welcome to Exploring the Mystical side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from ThoughtChange.com. We are Exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today we have a fascinating guest joining us. We’re talking ancestral healing; I have healer Joy Baker with me. Welcome, Joy.

Joy Baker:
Hey, Linda. It’s so great being on your show and being able to interact with your listeners and viewers.

Linda Lang:
I love the topic of ancestral healing and how our ancestors actually impact us. So tell me a little bit about your ancestral work.

Joy Baker:
Okay, so we’ve got our conditioning. We receive approximately 80% of our conditioning by the time we’re four years old. And by conditioning, I mean thoughts, beliefs, emotions, behaviors, what you believe about yourself, about others, about money, everything. You receive approximately 80% of that by the time you’re you’re 4, approximately 95% by the time you’re 12. And the thing is, your parents have received that from their parents. So you receive that from your parents or your primary caregivers, whoever raises you, and they receive that from their parents, they receive that from their parents and so on. So that’s a generational trauma and healing and beliefs that are passed down. And when we start going to preschool, kindergarten, grade one and such, what we do is we focus on what we’ve been taught.

So your mind will focus on what it believes to be right or true. So you give your focus and your attention to that. So you give energy to that. So what you’ve been taught, what your parents have been taught, what your your grandparents have been taught, so your ancestors. So these are being passed down from generation to generation. You focus on that, you give energy to that you give energy to is what will come back to you. Energy, think of it as a boomerang, it’s going to come back to you. Maybe not from the same person, place, event or experience, but eventually it’s going to come back. So now you’re focusing on what you’ve been taught because the mind likes to be right, and the mind looks for evidence of what it believes to be right. So you will focus on that. So you will find that evidence.

You believe it’s just happening, but it’s based on your conditioning and what you’re focusing on. So then you have experiences, give that meaning based on what you give the meaning you give your experiences, you create a story, and eventually that creates your identity. Now, as an adult, we’re saying, well, that always happens to me. People just treat me that way. I’m always, you know, that way with money, or I’ve just, you know, been stuck with money for whatever it is. And. But that’s actually your identity. You believe that to be a truth, but it’s what you were taught. And, you know, in a nutshell, that’s generational healing.

But we’ve all been taught that that’s not a divine truth. And that’s what I think we all need to keep in mind is divine. The truth is you are a beautiful being, you’re a light being. You can be anybody you want. It’s possible. And you have the, the full angelic universe supporting you. So it’s learning that, “Okay, that’s what I’ve been taught. It’s what I believed is a truth, but maybe there’s more to me than that.”

Linda Lang:
So how do we actually, first of all, become aware of these old programs, Joy? And then how do we change them?

Joy Baker:
Great question. So if anywhere in your life, like, as an adult, if you’re stuck. If you’re stuck with money, if you’re stuck in relationships. If communication is always an issue. Whatever it is, then, you know, that is like, if you’re stuck in struggle or just stagnant or nothing’s working out for you, you know, you are stuck in that 3D consciousness of lack and limitation. And chances are it was passed down. And one of the ways to look at that is, you know, look at what you grew up in and look at the relationship your parents had with money or with themselves or whatever it is, let’s say money.

If your parents… My mom and dad went bankrupt. I’ve gone through two bankruptcies. So I just carried that on. That didn’t change the money thing for me. That was my sticking point my whole life. It didn’t change until I really started to value myself. And I said, as far as starting this business, I said, it’s time. Once I said it’s time, and I followed my passion and trusted and valued myself, my money situation started to increase because money loves value. Money is attracted to people who are creative and value themselves and are looking to support others through that in whatever way — service, product, whatever it is. So if you’re feeling stuck, if you’re stuck in struggle, you are definitely stuck in a 3D limiting consciousness. The third dimension is fear based. It’s all about lack and limitation and scarcity. It’s about control and it’s about keeping you stuck.

Generations before us have been birthed into that consciousness, that fear based 3D consciousness. So if you’re stuck and struggling and nothing seems to be working out and we’ve all been there, or if you’re feeling a lot of trauma and scared and such, you know, it’s generational. The truth with a capital “T” is divine presence. But you need to remind yourself of that because this world does not, you know, as a generalization, it doesn’t support that. It doesn’t support divine truth. It doesn’t support freedom and expansion and believing, you know, it’s possible and believing in yourself and in speaking to yourself. And that’s a big thing. The words you use, it can support you, it can inspire you, can support and build up your immune system, or your words can bring you down. Your words are… ’cause it’s… everything is energy and your words are vibration and frequency. And I can see you nodding. I mean, like, absolutely.

Linda Lang:
That’s probably the most powerful place for transformation.

Joy Baker:
Yeah, that’s an excellent way to put it. And I absolutely am with you on that. It’s just. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
Let’s consider for a moment our life path. Our soul chose this life with these parents with a certain trajectory which we have, you know, choice in. Right? How does that fit in with our stuckness being associated with ancestrals? And by that I mean, what happens if we’ve chosen a life with a specific challenge or hardship, whether to learn and grow from it or to, to actually overcome it? It’s not always that we overcome it though. Right? Sometimes it is just for growth or to develop our consciousness or to impact the people that are also around us. So how do we know that that’s not the path our soul’s set out for us as compared to, “Oh, I’m stuck because of ancestral programming.”

Joy Baker:
When you say the path our soul has set out for us, what do you… Okay. Yeah. Oh, I, I just… If you could identify that.

Linda Lang:
Yeah. Let’s take the issue of finances. You know, maybe in a past life you were somebody really wealthy who abused your power and your money. So now you’re getting the other end of the stick. Or maybe you’ve come in to learn how to value yourself and so you go through the other end of that stick. First of all, with the parents that you have… but the parents that you have in the programming you’ve received is actually part of your soul plan. It’s a really fine line of which way it could be. And it’s one of the reasons why I suggest to my clients and the people around me not to judge. Because you don’t know if that person is really a “stuck” person, a “lower consciousness” person or enlightened person who’s come here to teach you compassion, right?

Joy Baker:
Absolutely. Absolutely. I think you… yeah, you brought up a really good point there, Linda. And it’s. I just felt a little bit of anger come in there. So I’m just gonna witness that. That’s what I do is identify emotional frequency. So I just want to witness that anger. And it’s actually quite a bit of anger. It’s not from you or me, it’s from what, it’s what I’ve termed it Matrix anger, which is a very insidious, manipulative energy. And when we touch something really deep like that, this Matrix anger will come up because it’s, it is very insidious and it’s trying to manipulate us into avoiding that. There you go. Yeah. Even identifying that it really is there, I just felt a heart opening.

Linda Lang:
Can I ask you a little question about that? Is this Matrix level emotion, would you consider that to be like from the collective?

Joy Baker:
Yes, it’s from the collective, but it’s bigger than that. It’s…

Linda Lang:
The collective unconscious?

Joy Baker:
It’s, it’s a collective unconscious. But this is what I believe anyways. The Matrix is a fear-based like, it’s like a web. So it’s an interlocking web of limiting beliefs, thoughts, emotions, behaviors. It’s all, it’s control and fear based on. I believe there’s an agenda of the heavy energies or dark energies to keep us under the control of this fear based energy. And so we’ve been birthed into this for many generations.

And I believe this is a generation. I call it the Great Awakening because all around the world now people are waking up to, you know,,. Well, many people are waking up… Some people, you know, they want to stay asleep. And that’s, you know, their journey… waking up to something greater. Now people are waking up, but we’re still very much in that 3D fear-based control consciousness. And yes, it’s part of the collective because that’s what we’ve been living many generations. Yet they are here to by their very beingness and who they are and the way they appear on a physical level.

They are here to wake people up to higher thought and higher consciousness and those… not many people and, you know, the current lifetime we’re living in. the consciousness… but some people, like you said, they will see them and realize they are here for a divine purpose. But they’ve got the very courageous heart to come in. And the vast majority of the population won’t see them that way. They see them from the five senses in that 3D consciousness. And we still live in a world where a lot of people, you know, who are not like everybody else in the home, you know, the normal thing, they get bullied or they get put down and such. And that’s why I say they are full of courage and full of heart. And, yeah, I’ve got a lot of compassion for anybody who has. Yes. At a soul level, you know, when their soul, before they come into physical presence, their soul knows their divine strength and power and courage.

Linda Lang:
Yes. I think there’s a lot of things in our life we wouldn’t consciously choose. Right? But here we are…here we are. Did you receive any insight about that deep anger that was bubbling up?

Joy Baker:
Oh, that was just to manipulate us, to prevent us from going any deeper. You’re asking some really good questions there, and it’s going really deep. And I find this with clients, too. When we touch something really deep. This… it’s just what I coined it Matrix anger, because it sums it up really quickly. And it will come in to try to prevent us from going any further.

So it often happens. I know I’ve gone through it. I think anybody who stepped into, you know, is expanding their comfort zone and that, anger comes up. And the anger comes up for so many different reasons. But it’s part of the Matrix anger trying to manipulate you. Because often when we’re expanding our business or our world or personal life, what can come up is we start finding others wrong or blaming others or judging ourselves or others, all that 3D consciousness. But I believe that’s part of that Matrix anger saying, “No, just stay in your safe little comfort zone.” And if you can bust through that and the fear, so you feel expansive and free and much more powerful and grounded.

Linda Lang:
And certainly when we release those programs, we also feel lighter and free.

Joy Baker:
Absolutely. 100%. Yeah. It’s. Busting through the fear can take a lot of energy. And I’ve done that many times in my life where there’s, you know, in fear. And because I used to be scared of everything, I worked with horses, and horses were all I knew, and that were all I understood. People were a whole different species that I did not understand. And I was very 3D based, like, I was totally in that consciousness. So on my journey, I’ve had to, you know, I call it “walking through the valley of fear” many times, but like you said, you feel so much lighter and freer afterwards.

Linda Lang:
Let’s go back to that original question about how to know whether our issues are ancestral in nature or part of our divine path that we are here to grow through.

Joy Baker:
Really, you can figure anything is generational. It’s all past, it’s all generational. What you want to look at is, do you feel stuck? Are you struggling? Do you feel like nothing’s working out in your life? Do you feel like nobody understands you? Those are all their childhood wounds. They’re generational and such. All this is passed down. Take a look at your life as you’re living it now, and do you feel light, free, creative, supported? In what kind of life? Like, ask yourself, what kind of life do you want to create? Maybe you, like, you know, you just want to stay in the same place, but more be, you know, from a peaceful, just uplifting existence. Or maybe you want to go out and have adventure. Maybe you want to be in a relationship or create lots of money, whatever it is, and work from that place and then look at what’s keeping you stuck in your life and where you’re struggling and ask possibility questions.

Well, yeah, “I’m struggling right now. I’m stuck,” or “I’m feeling overwhelmed. I’ve got so much to do.” But what’s possible beyond this? And how can I look at this from an expanded point of view or a greater understanding? So it’s like, yes, I think it’s all on to some extent generational. When you understand that, like, okay, this has been passed down generation from generation, but this is what I want to create now. So how do I move forward from that place?

Linda Lang:
And is it possible to enlist assistance from our ancestors while we’re creating what we want to create?

Joy Baker:
Absolutely. So often, you know, we think about generational trauma and healing and that. But your ancestors, they’ve got, you know, whether it’s a financial abundance, happiness, it’s peace, a sense of adventure, whatever you’re looking for, go back to your ancestors. Just say, just ask your ancestors to bless you with whatever you’re looking for, or if it’s courage, anything like that. So absolutely, yes, we can receive that from our ancestors just as much as we can trauma and such. This is a bit of a story. It’ll explain generational trauma and beliefs in that and how they’re passed down. So there’s a mom in the kitchen one day, she’s cooking dinner, her five year old daughter’s with her and she goes to cook a roast and she cuts off the ends first of all.

And her daughter’s looking at her saying, “Mom, why do you cut off the ends of the roast before you put it in the pot?” And her mom says, “I don’t know, my mom always did that.” And daughter says, “Well, ask your mom.” So she calls up her mom and says, “Mom, why did you always cut off the ends of the pot roast before you put it in the pot and in the oven?” And her mom says, “Well, I don’t know, my mom always did that.” So this woman calls up her grandma and says, “Grandma, why did you ever cut off the ends of the roast before you put in the pot and cooked it?” And she’s like, “Oh my gosh, are you still doing that? The roast won’t fit in the pot. I had to cut off the ends of the roast.” And that’s how things are passed down generation to generation. We don’t even think of it. Like people before have said certain things or believe them or done certain things.

So we just keep doing that until we question it. It’s like, hey, this worked for, you know, me five years ago, 10 years ago, worked for my parents, but, you know, doesn’t really work for me. Everything is changing now. So what worked for our ancestors, it’s not going to work for us now?

Linda Lang:
Yeah, definitely. The world is changing. So our ancestors, can they change with the world? You know, they have a different perspective. Let’s talk a little bit about how they can see things from a different perspective and actually help us on our path.

Joy Baker:
This is what I believe and I’ve seen is that like once somebody is passed, whatever trauma or beliefs they pass with is, it’s not like they’re on the earth. They can do their inner work, so they still are of that consciousness. But let’s say you’re emotionally connected to somebody and you would be with your ancestors as you change and do your inner work and create a new, you know, higher frequency consciousness and such, your ancestors can shift as well. Absolutely. You can release for somebody else. So I don’t know if… your ancestors can’t do inner work and change your beliefs in that way, but we can support them. Like when you’re doing your inner work.

And I’ve, I’ve done this with clients where clients have been, you know, changing beliefs, emotional, letting go of trauma and I’ll say let’s let go of this for your ancestors as well. And I can literally feel, hear the ancestors cheering it, say “Oh, finally.” And then they become more free and it supports their ascension. Because people… that’s what I believe anyways… is that souls can get stuck in an in-between place, so they’re not really free and completely ascended. But they’re not here on Earth either because they’ve still got stuff to work through, but we need to do it for them. And that’s another reason for you to, you know, do your inner work and step into all that you be, because you’re supporting your ancestors as well and your future generations. Absolutely.

Linda Lang:
So the kind of work that you do, Joy, seems like it’s mostly in beliefs and patterning, maybe some emotions. Can it also physically shift our bodies?

Joy Baker:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Everything is energy as you know, including our physical selves. Even though with our five senses it all looks physical, we look physical to each other, it’s all energy. Your body consists of your beliefs, your thoughts, your emotions, any trauma, any light energies within yo;, that’s your physical body. As you release that and as you focus on appreciating yourself, believing in yourself, trusting yourself, honoring, respecting yourself, your body can shift. I remember a friend of mine saying I’d done a lot of inner work and really focusing on the higher light frequencies and that she hadn’t seen me for about six months, this was several years ago. And she’s like, your face has changed.

We’ve all heard of people who we haven’t seen for a while and they look like they’re younger, you know, and such because of their inner work, eating healthier, all of that. So yeah, that affects our bodies. In fact, pain is stuck energy, it’s congealed energy and that’s stuck emotions and so… but especially if it’s chronic, just speak to yourself with kindness. So focus on where the area of pain is and just speak to yourself, “I appreciate you.” If it’s in your shoulder, your knee, wherever it is, just say, focus on that area and say, “I appreciate you, I honor you, I respect you. I thank you for all the ways you support me and I thank you for all the ways you, you know, encourage me” and just speak with kindness to that, you know, that area, your entire body, but especially in the area where there’s pain and the pain will, if not right away, it will eventually dissolve. Really speaking to yourself with kindness, appreciation, appreciate yourself like that is so important.

Especially you want to increase your financial situation, your relationships, your communication, feel lighter. If a person wants to feel lighter and lose weight, get healthier, feel stronger, anything like that, you have got to speak to yourself with appreciation, respect, honor yourself, be kind to yourself. Because your words and your energy can either tear you down or it can build you up. And a lot of women generally will say, one of the things you want to do is lose weight. Well, excess weight is just unresolved emotions. And yes, when we’re on the path, we’re going to go through that because we’re processing a lot of emotions and can get stuck and then you release it. But if a person is carrying excess weight and they are being hard on themselves, that that weight’s just going to stay stuck. So part of that losing, letting go of that, I call it “letting go” actually, rather than losing because, you know, we want to find what we lose.

And. And so letting go of that is being kind to yourself. If you’re feeling heavy, kind of down, don’t have much energy, something like that, just notice that you’re feeling heavy, or if you’re feeling pain, anything like that, just notice how you’re feeling, just pay attention. And then start speaking to yourself with kindness and understanding. Say, “I appreciate myself. I am enough. I matter and I am important. You know what? I like myself. I’m actually amazing. Look at all I’ve accomplished,” and start talking to yourself like that. And after a few moments, just check in and you’ll notice that you feel lighter.

Linda Lang:
And what would you say to all those people that instead of giving themselves the negative talk, they project it out into the world, towards other people? Because that’s just as detrimental.

Joy Baker:
Oh, yeah. Because initially, like, whatever we project out or we say to somebody comes from us, so it’s within you first. So to those people that are doing that, if they’re listening to this, there’s a part of them that wants to change, that wants to step out of that. Some people don’t. They’re the kinds of people that, you know, they’re not going to listen to this. They’re not interested in awakening. But if they’re the kind that project that outwards, first off, it’s judgment.

Judgment is a way of expressing pain. It actually says nothing. If you’re a person that judges others, well, look inward because it’s actually rather than judging yourself, you’re judging others. And that’s the only way you know how to express your pain. Or if somebody else is judging you, says nothing about you, says everything about them, and that’s the way they express pain. But if you are a person who is constantly projecting that negativity outwards. So I would say, what do you get from that? What do you get from putting others down or projecting that negativity from you? Okay, so I’m going to. Can I follow the stream of consciousness here?

Linda Lang:
Absolutely.

Joy Baker:
So I’m going to imagine that I’m asking somebody, so “What do you get from projecting that negative energy and those negative words to somebody else?” Okay, so what I’m hearing is “I get to avoid hearing it within me.” Okay, so what this consciousness is saying is “at least I’m not being negative towards myself.” Okay? So that’s one way to look at it. However, that negative energy is still within you. It’s still taking you down. Okay, so I just felt the consciousness just get really almost rejected and dejected. See that the being, the consciousness I’m talking to thought they were actually doing a good thing by projecting this outwards. And even though it was affecting relationships and everything else, when they realized that that energy is still within them and it’s still like it’s still affecting them, they felt rejected and dejected.

And that, I would say, is a lot of energy moving right now. That’s a childhood wound. So what the… ultimately, what they’re trying to do is to heal a childhood wound. Now, it’s different with everybody. Everybody’s unique. This is just a consciousness we’re connecting to right now. So ultimately, they’re trying to heal a childhood wound by projecting that negativity outwards.

Okay, there’s some really deep sadness and grief coming up. And the reason for the sadness and grief is that this current stream of consciousness is realizing that you got it there. It all originates within you. And, okay, so they weren’t… The reason they were projecting that negativity outwards is because they didn’t know how to really be honest with themselves and look within. And they didn’t know what the childhood wound was and then how to heal it. There you go. There’s some relaxation and ease. Okay, just take that. That’s what I do right now. That just, I just, you know, felt that came in, so I just followed it.

Linda Lang:
So if any of the listeners have that pattern in their own psyche, can we assume that they’ve just received a healing?.

Joy Baker:
If that’s their path? Yes. Now, everybody is unique, but generally there’s a reason they’re projecting that outward. Everybody’s unique. But if it’s a form of blame, blaming somebody else is keeping them powerless. And so when we grow up, there’s an emotional field. And if you grow up feeling powerless, like you’re, you know, you have no power, you have no voice. You know, nobody listens to you, nobody understands you. That’s what’s familiar as an adult.

Even though you’re on the path, you know your higher sel… as your higher self, you know that’s not the energy you want to be in, but it’s what’s familiar because it’s what you grew up in. What’s familiar is comforting. That’s your comfort zone. In moments of stress, we default to the comfort zone. So now let’s say feeling powerless and misunderstood and nobody cares. That’s a big one. That’s all familiar to them.

So now they blame somebody else. Every time we blame somebody else, we give away our power, and ultimately we feel powerless. Now their higher self is not saying, okay, do this so you can feel powerless. But again, remember, that’s a comfort zone. It’s what’s, what’s familiar. It’s like an emotional hit. And so then they act in such a way so that they can get that emotional hit of feeling powerless again.

And then they’re going, it’s not really the person I want to be. I don’t want to be blaming others or dumping all this negative energy on them, but why am I staying stuck there? There’s something you’re getting from that, and chances are it could very well be an emotional hit that’s familiar to you, that feels comforting, that you grew up in. So look at the emotional energy you grew up in, because we all do that until we become aware of that. So that’s one area I would suggest really looking at. You don’t have to remember everything, you don’t have to remember everything that happened to you. But you know, what energy you grew up in, you know, fear, shame, guilt, feeling powerless, silenced, all of that.

And then if you keep doing the same thing over and over again, you’re on the path, you want more out of it, but you’re stuck in that negative energy. Take a look at that. The energy in the environment you grew up in, especially the emotional frequency. When you can look at that, that’s going to tell you a whole lot about why you do what you do now.

Linda Lang:
And then how can you shift it?

Joy Baker:
Awareness is the first step to growth. So just being aware of that and then say, how, you know, “How do I want to be in this world? What kind of relationships do I want to have?” Authentic, uplifting, inspiring, genuine, you know, fun, communications, connection, relationships. “How much money do I want to have? Why do I want to have this money?” Because I want to have amazing experiences. So what you’re doing there, you’re moving into energy in a form of creation and creativity is in the fifth dimension. That’s a frequency of the fifth dimension of the New Earth. So now you’ve got an idea of how you want to be in this world, who you want to be and what you want to create and where you’re at. So you’ve got that awareness and now say, “Okay, well this is what I want to move forward to. How do I start choosing differently?” Okay, so let’s say a pattern is I spread my negativity on others or I tend to blame others and make excuses.

So you become aware. Okay, well that’s keeping me stuck in powerlessness. So I continue to feel powerless and then I’m not creating what I desire. So how can I choose differently the next moment? See, once you become aware the next moment you go to blame somebody else or dump negativity on somebody else. Now in the moment we default to what we know. But if it’s, you know, say by email or text or you have a moment to pause, you can go, you know what, I’m going to choose something different. And in that moment the pull is going to be towards the default, the emotional pull to do what you’ve always done, but choose something different and say, no, this is how I want to live my life. This is who I want to be in this world.

This is the kind of people I want to be around. These are the adventures I want to go on. This is what I want to create. And you know what, if I do that, I’m just going to stay stuck in powerlessness and heaviness. So I’m not going to do that. Even though that’s my comfort zone. I’m going to say nothing or I’m going to choose to be kind to myself and remind myself how awesome I am. Different things like that. So that would be a place to start.

Linda Lang:
It definitely takes a certain level of self-awareness and willingness to really see those parts of ourselves.

Joy Baker:
Absolutely, yeah. Awareness is key. And that willingness to really see those parts of yourself and to be aware and see those parts and be really clear though, don’t start judging yourself because that’s often what we do. We don’t want to see those parts because then we go, oh, but you know, you start judging yourself. That’s part of the 3D. That’s part of what I call the Matrix, that fear based 3D consciousness. Remember, its agenda is to keep you stuck and feeling stuck and powerless and in fear.

Linda Lang:
Joy, is it possible that you could lead us through a process so we could have a taste of this kind of healing?

Joy Baker:
Sure, let’s see. So everything’s in the moment. It’s all channeled. So, so we’re going to start. First of all, just take a deep breath in and… Okay, so right away there’s a little bit of anxiety coming up. The anxiety, it comes from the part of you that knows unconsciously, you know, we’re going to go deep and there’s going to be transformation.

So we want to start there and just talk to the part of you that is afraid of transformation. And I just want to talk to this part of you and what my guides do and just say where it’s okay. We’re all, most of us are all afraid or even terrified of transformation. But you know your why. You know what you’re wanting to move forward to. You know what your heart desires. You know your heart is desiring something greater. You know it because you’re listening to this program and programs like this. So you know there’s a part of you that wants to experience life from a higher frequency, a higher consciousness.

So it’s okay to be afraid of transformation. There you go. There your whole self relaxed. See, a part of you was believing, “Well, it’s bad to be afraid of transformation.” It’s just part of the process. There you go. There’s a little bit of happiness.

Okay, so let’s take a look at your ancestors and the generational beliefs and trauma and emotions and patterns that have been passed down and think of the one thing that you’d like to change in your life. Maybe it’s your money situation. Maybe it’s communication. Maybe it’s having a partner in your life, whatever it is for you, just something you’d like to release in your life. And something, by releasing it, you can bring something else into your life. Okay, and maybe it’s trauma, maybe it’s anxiety, maybe it’s fear. It can be emotionally based or physically based. Okay, so we’re going to ask the Universe to go to the… travel down your ancestral timeline and go to the moment in time when this began, whether it’s a stuckness or a trauma.

And there you go. To bless that time and space, to calling on Archangel Raphael to bless that time and space with healing, to release the trauma. Okay, just breathe. You’re okay. You’re safe. There you go. Okay, there’s a little bit of fun and laughter. Okay, now let’s move forward along your ancestral timeline. And any moments in time when that pain, trauma issue, whatever it is, got stuck and embedded, we’re going to call on Archangel Raphael for healing, call on angelic presence, Divine Presence for blessings, and let’s call on Archangel Michael for strength, for courage.

There you go. So just see all these beautiful light beings going along, moving along your ancestral timeline, releasing any moments when that trauma, belief, whatever it is you’re looking to release, got stuck and embedded. There you go. There’s some happiness and lightness. So now this is how powerful you are, my friend. You are releasing for your ancestors. Your ancestors are feeling lighter and lighter and you are supporting their ascension. Okay, so let’s go to the moment you were conceived.

Any trauma, any limiting beliefs, any fear based beliefs, emotions, patterns, behaviors that were installed within you in the moment of inception or conception. There you go. Let’s go ahead and release those on all levels, mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, cellular, throughout all time and space, releasing for your ancestors as well. Okay, so let’s go through the time you are in the womb, releasing any trauma, fear based beliefs, emotions, experiences. There you go. Releasing it for your mother as well, who carried you. There you go. Okay, so your moment of birth.

Let’s release any ancestral traumas, limiting beliefs, fear based emotions. Okay, there you go. There’s some lightness there. I just felt the back of your heart chakra open up and that’s your connection to the divine heart. There you go. Okay, so now let’s go through your present day. We’re going to call on Archangel Michael, Raphael, St. Germain, other light beings that are coming along, anybody else that you want to call on to move forward along your present day timeline.

There you go. Releasing any pain, limiting beliefs, trauma. There you go. Anything else that you would like released to your present day. Give yourself permission to feel light, free, expansive, uplifted, inspired. Give yourself permission to allow new ideas, new ways of looking at yourself, at situations, expanded higher consciousness understandings. Give yourself permission to allow all of this. Give yourself permission to be supported, uplifted and inspired.

And know that it’s all possible. Your dreams, your visions, your desires, it’s all possible. Just know that it’s all possible. Believe that it’s possible. Allow yourself to imagine the possibilities. There you go. (Light language channel.) There you go, my friend. Namaste.

Linda Lang:
Beautiful, beautiful Joy. I love energy work that you can feel. So it was so interesting to be able to feel almost like a veil as a subconscious gets activated and little parts of the brain being activated. Now you finished with light language?

Joy Baker:
Yes. Yeah, that was light language. So to me that just kind of grounds in all that, that angelic light based energy and I find it’s a great way to finish.

Linda Lang:
Beautiful, beautiful. Joy, it’s been an absolute joy having you as my guest today.

Joy Baker:
Thank you for having me on. It’s been awesome to connect with you.

Linda Lang:
And if anyone would like to know more, where can we send them?

Joy Baker:
My website, www.courageinaction.com so courage-in-i-n-action.com and they can get a free ebook there. It’s messages, it’s channeled messages from Spirit. Some are written, some are MP3s. So they just need to enter their email and they get that free ebook and then you know, they can take a look at the kind of work I offer. So I also do phone sessions, but I also work just from the picture, which from what my clients have told me, it’s a little bit different, you know, and it goes deeper quickly. So if they’re interested in trying out something like that, that is available as well. It’s remote so… and it’s just done from the picture, and then I send the recordings.

Picture holds their, their energy and the energy signature, so I’m working from that. And energy doesn’t lie. Like there’s no story to get in the way. It’s powerful when we work, you know, like on the phone and together we connect that way but when I’m working with the picture… Now, a person has to have some level of self-awareness because we’re going deep into the unconscious. So they may or may not be aware of what comes up. And there can be resistance from the energy, but because there’s no story from the person per se, we can go deep really quickly because we’re going deep into that unconscious conditioning and identifying and we don’t have to know exactly what it is, but we go into the emotional frequency of that.

And when the emotional frequency of something is, is released, then we can just follow the stream of consciousness and then it just continues to release and then we activate whatever the person’s looking for. So because the reason that is so powerful and it can be done so quickly is because there’s no story getting in the way. Yes, the resistance, the energy itself and the consciousness can resist. But my guides, you know, my spiritual guides are able to guide me so that we can get past that resistance and make the energy itself feel safe, the unconscious self feel safe, so that we can go really deep. It’s really powerful. It’s actually how I started out doing this full time, just, you know, via the picture. And I love it because I’m not getting caught up in a story. I’m just working with the energy.

Linda Lang:
Thank you again.

Joy Baker:
Thank you. Been great being on your show.

Linda Lang:
And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical Sound of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at www.ThoughtChange.co. Pick up your copy of Learning to Listen, and we will see you again next time. Bye for now.