Discover How Emotions Shape Your Health and Spiritual Gifts with Medical Intuitive Peggy Oberthier

Step into a world where emotions and energy intertwine, influencing your physical health, happiness, and spiritual awakening. In this enlightening episode of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life, as Linda welcomes medical intuitive Peggy Oberthier for a deep dive into our energetic blueprint—and how simply allowing ourselves to feel can be profoundly healing.

Peggy shares her extraordinary journey from skeptic and teacher to intuitive healer, recounting her “dark night of the soul” and subsequent awakening to the truth that we are all unconditional love and pure source energy. Her work is a beautiful reminder that your body does not betray you—rather, it lovingly holds unexpressed emotions until you’re ready to release them and reclaim your power.

Here are three transformative takeaways from this episode:
🔹 Healing Through Allowing: Discover how honoring your emotions, rather than resisting or judging them, creates space for healing. This simple act can dissolve old energy blockages, allowing your body and spirit to flourish.
🔹 Activation of Spiritual Gifts: Peggy explains how clearing emotional debris not only restores well-being, but also awakens intuitive gifts—often hidden behind self-doubt, past lives, or ancestral patterns. Your sensitivity and awareness can become your greatest strengths.
🔹 Joyful Self-Compassion: Explore how practices of stillness, presence, and self-kindness reconnect you to your heart. As Peggy says, “It’s about remembering you are unconditional love.” Laughter and play are not just luxuries—they’re spiritual tools for transformation.

Tune in for a heart-opening conversation filled with wisdom, humor, and a special light language transmission to uplift and inspire you on your healing path. Embrace your emotions, remember who you truly are, and let your light shine.

 

 

Transcript:

Peggy Oberthier:
You’re literally totally okay. You are unconditional love. You are pure source energy. You are exactly where you’re supposed to be and just allow. A lot of the work that I’m doing is just holding people in this frequency of unconditional love to help them remember that they are unconditional love.

Announcer: Welcome to Exploring the Mystical Side of Life with your host, Linda Lang.

Linda Lang:
Hi, this is Linda Lang from ThoughtChange.com. We are Exploring the Mystical Side of Life once again this week. If you enjoy our conversations, remember to subscribe, share with a friend. Today I have medical intuitive Peggy Oberthier with us. We are going to take a deep dive into our energy system, and how our emotions translate into health, happiness, joy, abundance, and all the things we want to create in our lives. Welcome, Peggy.

Peggy Oberthier:
Thank you so much for having me on the show, Linda. I really appreciate being here today.

Linda Lang:
Well, this is a topic that I thoroughly find fascinating. Before we dive into it, I’m just kind of curious because you weren’t born a medical intuitive. How did you sense that gift evolving?

Peggy Oberthier:
That’s an interesting story. I guess I was always intuitive, you know, being able to understand and read people, you know, through school, et cetera. And then in my early 20s, I was, I was a full-blown atheist. Honestly. I didn’t believe in anything spiritual or anything like that. And it was in my mid-forties when I went through that dark night of the soul and I started seeking alternative pathways outside of the conventional medicine model. And I… somebody referred me to a psychic and she knew everything about me and I thought, how is that possible? Right?

So then it just sparked this sort of curiosity in this other side. And I went down the rabbit hole as you do for about 9 years and tried all these different modalities. It was through meditation, I started meditating, I took a Vedic meditation course. I absolutely loved it. And I had quite a few, I guess you would call mystical experiences where I was, you know, out in the bliss zone, but then these voices would come in and I would do some automatic writing and my voice would change. So I thought, okay.

And you know, I’d heard of Lee Harris and all these channelers. I’m like, am I channeling? So I knew that my crown chakra had been activated. And I’m doing all my shadow work, you know, you really gotta go through the shadow stuff if you really want to access your full range of gifts. And then I ended up seeing a medical intuitive myself, and at the end of the session, he’s like, you know, you’re, you’re a medical intuitive, Peggy. And I said, what are you talking about?

And then look, I guess I’d never really tuned into a body, and that’s basically how it started. Before that, I had an Akashic Records reading about 2 years prior, and she had said, oh no, you’ve got claircognizance, which is, you know, when it comes in as a thought. And I’d been counseling high school students at the time and I would get this information in my head and I’d say, “Oh, is it your mom whose boyfriend…?” And they’d say, “How do you know?” I said, “Oh, well, this is just really common.”

So I was getting information and I instinctively knew, like I could read a kid very quickly about what was going on. So it was just rather confirming, you know, when the thoughts come in, you’re just like, did I make that up? Because I didn’t have the visions and I didn’t have the voices. I just had thoughts.

Linda Lang:
It’s quite a radical change to go from counseling kids to actually working as a medical intuitive.

Peggy Oberthier:
It was a huge jump. It’s been a massive leap. Well, I was actually a teacher for about 25 years and then I moved into counseling and teaching at the same time. But actually, interestingly enough, it’s actually not that different. Because you’re using your counseling skills and you’re tuning into people. But what I love about the medical intuitive or the way I work with energy is that it just seems faster. Like, you know, I trained in EFT tapping, and so when I worked with people, I would go, “Oh, it’s because when you were 4 years old, this happened.”

But you have to slowly get there. That might take 5 or 6 sessions for them to gently bring them to the point where they might be ready to explore that 4-year-old self and of the incident that occurred that sort of created this belief. Whereas now when I, when I’m working with clients and I get messages about, you know, the blocks in their body, like the pain… I get mirrored symptoms in my body that kind of points to where I’ve gotten to work. And then I get messages about specific ages and events about what happened. So it’ll be like, “Oh, when you were 7, did you fall off a horse? “And there’s fear stuck in the back of your head. They’re like, “Oh yeah.” So, you know, that’s linked to their migraines. And then most of my clients have done a lot of work already.

They’ve been to counselors, they’ve done the shadow work, they’ve been on their spiritual journey. And so it’s just sort of the last vestiges of the dusting, I like to call it, to help them just step into their higher self and all their gifts get activated and just have more clarity, I guess… if that makes sense.

Linda Lang:
So is it only physical conditions that you look at, for the body? Or do some people come to you because of emotional issues? Or they really want clarity for their own spiritual path?

Peggy Oberthier:
It’s everything. That’s a really good question. Recently, most of my clients really are just looking for clarity. There’s some kind of recognition when they see me on a podcast. They just go, “I need to book her.” I don’t know why. And then they come in and they’re not aware of their gifts, their spiritual gifts. And then I just say, oh, you know, “Actually I can feel you. You know the truth. You’ve… You see people’s soul. There’s just some fear and doubt.”

There might be some past lives. We go into the understanding of the limiting beliefs that might be blocking that. There might be some physical manifestations of some of these contractions or distortions in, you know… let’s say there might be some thyroid issues around their throat chakra and just holding back speaking their truth. There might be some hip pain or there might be some correlating physical manifestations. A lot of neck pain, shoulder pain, you know, that sort of throat chakra stuff.

And when we explore some of the reasons why and clear some of the past lives, and then all of a sudden the pain can, you know, go away, often within the session itself. Although medical disclaimer, you know, I can’t, I can’t make any guarantees. And people are just healing themselves as they speak. It’s quite powerful.

Linda Lang:
Absolutely. I liken it to once you remove the energetic blockages, or when you open that energetic pathway, then the body can heal itself, right?

Peggy Oberthier:
Exactly. That’s right. And oftentimes we’re just, you know, like everyone who arrives to see me, I like to think like, there’s nothing wrong with you. Like you’re, you’re actually perfectly exactly where you’re supposed to be. And, and a lot of the emotions that are, let’s say, stuck but the body is just doing exactly what it’s supposed to. It’s supposed to hold you in a way, ’cause you haven’t been able to express it in a way that felt safe for you. So it’s gone into your throat or it’s gone into your neck or it’s gone into your shoulders or your hip or whatever. And that’s perfectly Okay, like everything is okay.

There’s nothing wrong with that. And so we start to explore what the emotion could be, and then we just allow that to be there. So we really have to allow that space rather than saying, oh, there’s like, there’s something wrong with you. It’s like, no, you’re allowed to be fearful. You’re allowed to have doubt. You’re allowed to be scared. And we just honor that. And in that allowing, it just creates a bit of space and comfort and nurturing for that. You know, it could be the 5-year-old self, it could be the 42-year-old self, just to honor that process that might have got intellectualized a bit too quickly.

‘Cause a lot of my clients have these beautiful rational brains that like to go, “Oh no, well, I know that’s for my highest good.” And it’s like, it’s okay. Yes, it could be for your highest good. And yes, your soul signed up for it, but let’s just drop in, ’cause we’ve come here for this rich, beautiful emotional experience as humans. This is what we’ve signed up for, to feel the range of emotions. And the Universe will, you know, just give you a few nudges and then knock you just to go back. And it could take 30 seconds.

Like, it’s not even that you have to cry for a week. It’s just a matter of going, “Yeah, I’m allowed to feel like that. And I’m also allowed not to want to feel like that. I’m allowed to judge myself for not feeling my sadness. I’m allowed to judge myself for feeling fear.” Like, everything’s okay and everything’s allowed. And then you say, “Well, I’m allowed to release that now and I’m allowed to let it go.” And there’s this palpable energy release from the person that I can feel just by the words and the words need to be spoken. And I believe that there’s just some power in the spoken word.

Linda Lang:
So that the energy from the body actually is embedded in the voice.

Peggy Oberthier:
I think so.

Linda Lang:
Yeah.

Peggy Oberthier:
I did read a study that said people that speak to themselves and talk to themselves are less likely to get colds and viruses, which is really interesting. I use light language a lot of the times to help with transmission, healing transmissions for the client. And sometimes there’s like subconscious messages and they understand what I’m saying.

And I’d get channeled information as well from their higher self or from different beings that might show up to help them process their soul journey. And that’s the other sort of spiritual work that I do with people. But what’s powerful is if I can get people to access their own light language, because then they have this tool for expression. And I, I’ve played around with this word light language because people can be a bit spooked by, like, you know, when you say it’s like, oh, there’s something I need to learn. Actually, we’re all just remembering.

It’s like a vocal energy release and it’s just gibberish. It’s just coming out as this vocal expression and it’s bypassing the analytical brain. So if I just set the intention, I want to release the energy caught in my throat, for example, and I can just drop into my heart space and breathe and just know that my soul knows exactly how to express itself. And then, you know, it might just come out as, (light language). And then I don’t have to relive the incident or get stuck in the beliefs and stories because that’s what we’re trying to, you know, with the spiritual awakening, we’re trying to like be present, just be in the now and not cling to the beliefs and the thoughts that are plaguing us and keeping us limited and forgetting who we are, which is just pure love.

Linda Lang:
So I was going to ask you how important you thought it was for people to know the story or understand the story underneath the symptoms. But what I just heard you say is that if they can access this light language, or I’ve heard some people call it soul language, even if it’s just like tones and humming, but if they can access that and release it, they don’t have to know the story. Is that correct?

I believe that 100%. And in fact, I had this beautiful lady yesterday when her hands came up, I could feel this energy. So her whole expression was through her hands. I get the stories of the past lives. I get the images and I used to tell the clients, but it’s just something else that people cling to. And I was the same, like, you know, say, “Oh, you were killed in a past life.” Then people just go, “Well, I was killed in a past life for this.” So that’s why it’s, you know, it becomes their story.

Yeah, “Well, the reason I’m so mad at my husband is because he killed me in a past life.” It’s like, well, it doesn’t serve you. So I only say what the past life image is that I’m getting if I feel like it’s going to be comic relief and we’re just gonna have a really big laugh about it. And that kind of boosts the energy and it helps the release.

But there’s no reason at all for anyone to know, you know, why. I mean, some people go, I have this irrational, I’m terrified of snakes. And then sometimes they kind of go like, “I don’t understand. I don’t understand.” I say, “Well, that probably happened in past life, but this is why we can release it,” right? Because it’s not rational.

So sometimes they wanna know because there’s something so strongly limiting for them in this lifetime and there’s no rational reason why. So then you go, well, let’s just say that you were probably caught in a pit of snakes and you were tortured or something like that. But we can just say it hypothetically and just have a bit of a laugh rather than saying, “Oh, I can see you. Yes, it’s the mid-century and you are—” we just do it hypothetically. We have a bit of a laugh and then we say, let’s just clear it. You know, I release the templates of suffering and torture from snakes. And from this lifetime and any past lifetimes and any planet, any galaxy, any universe. And then it’s a bit more playful.

Linda Lang:
It’s so interesting, Peggy, really, because we’re here in this life and this is a life that is important, the priority for us now… Yet we seem to bring in with us quite a bit of baggage from the past. Why do you think that is?

Peggy Oberthier:
That’s a good question. Well, I think that just all the lessons that we haven’t really mastered before we die, to be honest. You know, it’s just, we just keep taking it and it’s the karma that comes along with us and it’s like, well, choose your own Earth adventure and let’s just master this one. You had that lifetime. It’s just a game. It’s all a game. You know, you’re like, you love suffering? Well, you’re going to keep suffering and until you master the art of not suffering, because that’s what your soul wants to master. So we just keep carrying those along and until we can transcend them, I believe.

And I think, you know, if you really think about it, I always have this vision of somebody up with the Lord of Karma, whoever it is. It’s like an iPad and there’s like choose your adventure. You just keep ticking the boxes and you just go, really? You want to sign up for that one? But you’ve got all these ones you have to get through. And then what about these ones? And you’re like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give it all to me.” And then you land and you just completely forget that you’ve signed up for all these crazy experiences.

Linda Lang:
So in your experience, do you find more rooted in past lives or more in ancestral or more in this lifetime that hasn’t been fully processed?

Peggy Oberthier:
You know what? Every single client is different. It just depends on their level of spiritual awakening. And so many people that I’m getting, it’s literally, they are these walking, beautiful beings who have, like, hardly anything. I can’t feel any distortions or anything caught from this lifetime. They have this huge heart space. They have mastered the art of forgiveness, self-awareness, self-forgiveness. And it’s literally just some past life stuff around doubts or fear of accessing their full gifts.

The other thing I see is this sort of 3D programming and ancestral, particularly with women around overgiving, self-sacrificing, needing to suffer. And I think that can also be past life related. Like, that seems to be the sort of common themes in my most recent clients. Other clients, it’s like, it’s just all this lifetime of emotional stuckness because they’ve had trauma.

And a lot of those people, the highly sensitive souls that just feel everything really intensely, and then You know, they’re overwhelmed. They haven’t had caregivers that have been able to tune into them and sort of hold them in this, in this beautiful, energetically sensitive body of theirs. So they learn to like, whoop, just, you know, pop out of their bodies and do wonderful things, which is great, right? And then some people it’s like, “Oh my God, yeah, you’ve had lots of past lives here. So let’s just clear them and then you’re, you’re on your way,” you know? And those are the things they weren’t aware of. You know, I think after you’ve done all your shadow work… well, does it ever end is the question? I don’t know. I’m not sure. One day it will.

Linda Lang:
Remains to be seen, right?

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
So aside from light language, do you use any other techniques to clear energy?

Peggy Oberthier:
The other techniques I use, it’s literally just the vocal release. I get them to say a lot of statements because it’s super, super powerful. And the channeled messages have a very powerful frequency as well. There’s like this, like a… it comes in and it’s quite healing for them to understand and what’s happened in their lifetime and what they’re supposed to be doing.

I don’t get a lot of messages about, you know, 6 months down the road or anything like that. I’m definitely not psychic in that way, but I get a very clear message about what what they’ve been through and what their soul purpose is and what they’re here for. That seems to be what’s been happening. And that evokes a very emotional response and release.

And then they feel this like love in their body. So I feel it’s that channeling frequency is quite healing in and of itself. And it could be, it could be anybody. It could be Mary Magdalene, it could be the Arcturians. The Pleiadians come in a lot with this vocal singing, which I… it’s so bizarre because my voice is quite low and it goes very high and this song comes out. Sometimes it’s out of tune… but people resonate with it and cry and whatever happens. So I just opened myself to the Divine and go, “whatever comes through for their highest good.” That’s what we want to channel.

Linda Lang:
You mentioned having statements or affirmations that you have people recite. What if they don’t believe it? Do they have to believe it to get the shift?

Peggy Oberthier:
You know what? That’s really interesting. So with emotions, like it has to be the 100% truth, right? It has to be, it has to be the truth. And so if I say “I’m allowed to be…” like, “I’m allowed to feel anger,” but I can see if it’s not true, I go, “Oh, that’s not true.” So, but then I get them to say, well, “I’m allowed not to want to feel anger. I’m allowed to judge myself for feeling anger.” And then there’s like, oh, okay. Because everything is okay and everything is allowed. Most people that come and see me, in fact – I’d say 100% of the people see me – they understand past lives and they understand templates and vows and contracts and, you know, stuff like that.

So if you’re paying to see me, then you are believing that you have the capacity to heal and release. And it’s just, I’m holding this frequency for you to allow you to do that. But yeah, you can tell when somebody doesn’t resonate with the statement, it doesn’t… it’s not going to work.

Linda Lang:
Yeah, that’s one of the problems with affirmations, right? If you’re, you know, trying to manifest money and you have this wonderful statement of being abundant and having an overflow of money, but you look at your bank account and it’s not there, there is a discrepancy, and your unconscious mind which is part and parcel of your, and your subconscious mind, part and parcel of your manifesting process. I mean, they’re not buying it, right?

Peggy Oberthier:
No. Yeah, that’s right. Like, it’s not really affirmations. Some of the things that come through the guides, it’s like, you know, it’s okay to feel fear about accessing my gifts. It’s okay to have doubt. Because this, the paradox is that it’s okay to have doubt and then also surrendering at the same time. Like, those are totally okay. They’re both innocent.

It’s just that resistance that creates the issue. So I think there’s a relief in just embodying that full range of emotional experience to what is in the moment. And that’s what I’m helping people try to access because a lot of people are fighting with themselves, you know, like I should do this or I have to do that or I have to do this. It’s like, you know, I’m just helping people remember that you’re literally totally okay. You are unconditional love. You are pure Source energy. You are exactly where you’re supposed to be and just allow and allow and let yourself allow to release. So a lot of the work that I’m doing is just holding people in this frequency of unconditional love to help them remember that they are unconditional love.

Linda Lang:
And you mentioned that your work often awakens their gifts. Can we talk a little bit about how that happens?

Peggy Oberthier:
What’s really interesting is that people just have these, you know, I guess these subconscious beliefs. A lot of it is fear, you know, I mean, I have so many clients that are scientifically-minded, you know, doctors, engineers, and so they feel energy, they see people, they read it, they’ve had these gifts their whole lives and they, they don’t call them gifts. They just say, “Well, I just thought everybody knows the truth.” I say, “No, no, no, no. You know the truth.” And you know, some people I say like, “You’re actually channeling information, the scientific information that’s coming through your brain. I can see you in the meeting. You’re just going, this is the solution.

And everyone’s looking at like, you’re crazy. Where do you get that from? And you can’t even explain why.” The guy’s looking at me. “Yeah, exactly. That’s exactly what’s happened.” I said, because you’ve channeled that information. So what I’m doing is I’m just sort of explaining to them how their gifts are coming in, and what they have are actually intuitive gifts because that’s the information that their higher self wants to tell my higher self to tell. I get a very clear idea straight away if I’m working with somebody.

I go, “Okay, you know when people are lying?” They go, “Yes.” I said, “You’ve always had that?” “Yes.” I said, “You see right through people?” And they say, “Yes.” I said, “You can feel people’s feelings?” “Yes.” And I said, “You also see dead people?” “Yes.” So I just kind of end up normalizing and also getting them to understand that the way they’ve operated in their lifetime with their huge open heart and their, their capacity for giving and kindness keeps those gifts open. So there’s a very clear, I think. And I think there’s a guy, Dr. David Clements, who’s a physicist who talks about this as well.

The more that we are sitting in those high vibrational emotions of, you know, love, compassion, joy, the greater access we have to our higher self and through our crown chakra. When we are in our resentment and victim mode and anger and fear, which are all okay in and of themselves, they’re not emotions to ignore, but it’s only if we get stuck in the thoughts and beliefs that keep us looping in and stuck there, we just limit our access to Divine Source information coming in.

So that’s why I tell these people, I said, “No, the way you’ve lived your life and you’ve mastered this over lifetimes.” So I’m telling them about their lifetimes and I’m getting images of like, “Wow, you’re like a priestess from Lemuria. Oh my God.” I’ve got goosebumps. They’ve got goosebumps. And I’m like, “Oh my God, I think you were my teacher. Wow.” And I start crying. Like, it’s a beautiful exchange when this happens. I help them understand what their gifts are and then how it might manifest in their life. It doesn’t mean they have to go off and be a healer or whatever.

And I’m like, “No, I can see you just in your interactions. Your, your voice is quite healing. You’re calming people. You’re transmuting. You don’t even realize it.” You know, I said, “I’ll bet you when you hold a baby, the baby stops crying.” She’s like, “Yeah.” I said, “Yeah, that’s, that’s your gift.” You know, I had this beautiful lady in her 60s and I just said, “Wow, you’re, you’re like the baby whisperer.” And she said, “That’s true.” I said, “That’s what you’re supposed to do.” You know, “You could go into a neonatal hospital and just hold babies and they’d all stop crying and it will just… everybody in the whole room just calms down.” That’s so true.

Linda Lang:
That’s so true. Right? Even if healing is your gift, it doesn’t necessarily mean you have to become a healer. Your presence is healing.

Peggy Oberthier:
And like even people who make sandwiches, like, but they’re making a sandwich with love and they, they give that sandwich to that person. And then that person eats the sandwich. It’s just like creating these little pockets of joy and healing for people. Like, it can be so innocuous, but it’s just that full heart presence and just embodying your soul purpose. Like, I love making sandwiches and I’m making sandwiches with love. And, you know, you smile and they have all these regular customers and they love you because you make your sandwiches with joy. So it’s, I think that’s where we’re heading in the earth. It doesn’t, you know, it’s not everybody on Zoom calls, like, You know, removing entities and stuff like that. So…

Linda Lang:
So how do we sit in our big, beautiful open hearts more, Peggy? What kind of advice can you give us?

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah, that’s a really good question. I think stillness is just the start because when you, when you’re sitting in that meditative state, it could be through breath. It’s just pure awareness and presence. You just remember that you are infinite pure Source energy. And I think meditation is one of the practices of pure presence and awareness, and breathing into your heart space and just bringing in a loving moment. Recalling a loving moment, right? You know, for me, the quickest way is like, okay, I remember when my daughter was put on my chest after I gave birth. It’s like, ah, wow, my whole body can light up. But it could just also be as you’re walking in a park, it’s just the wonder of this incredible tree that you’re looking at.

Peggy Oberthier:
It’s pure awareness and presence of the wonder of the world that we are in. And through gratitude and just being kind to yourself is one of the most important ways as well to be in your heart space because the kinder you are to yourself, then it just emanates. But it’s really our thoughts, isn’t it? Like our thoughts are so loopy and painful, and they’re not who we are. The thoughts are not part of us at all.

Linda Lang:
The quality of our thoughts might be indicative of whether or not we need to do some healing work.

Peggy Oberthier:
Exactly. You know, that spiritual awakening, that pure spiritual awakening path of non-dual reality is just remembering that you’re just love. Like, that’s who you are. So when I’m in pure awareness and presence, like, it can feel overwhelming. Even the sun on my face or the trees, the grass, the birds, being in nature, grounding, and definitely staying off the television. It just brings you down, you know, since I stopped watching television, gosh, it certainly has changed my outlook.

And you have to laugh, like you’ve got to find some joy and laughter. And that’s what I try to bring to my sessions. Like healing shouldn’t just be tears and angst and anger and all that expression. It has to be full of laughter as well. It really raises your vibration.

Linda Lang:
You have mentioned Mary Magdalene, the Pleiadians, Star Beings. Have you ever seen or heard or had a knowing of something that really surprised you?

Peggy Oberthier:
Something that really surprised me. I had this experience that this one of my clients was, was like a, was a hybrid and that the Galactic Federation had, had screwed up the, you know, the software programming or something. I know that sounds crazy, but I was then working with the Galactic Federation through the whole session trying to help rewire her software. I didn’t tell her though, because I thought that would, um, kind of freak her out.

Linda Lang:
Become another story…

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah. Somebody told me I worked with dragons and I was like, okay, I don’t see the dragons, but then, you know, plenty of clients that go, “Wow, there’s like a green dragon there. Oh, there’s a blue dragon there.” So that kind of also blew me away a little bit when the dragons came through. But yeah, there’s lots of, um, Da Vinci came in one time when I was working on somebody’s spine and I was channeling Da Vinci. I didn’t even know Da Vinci would come in. Thanks, Da Vinci. So I have a whole new relationship with Da Vinci.

The other thing that really has really struck me is that Jesus or Yeshua, he’s got quite a sense of humor. Or maybe it’s because I have a sense of humor and maybe it’s just a reflection of me, but I don’t know. I think there’s a lot of humor involved, and a little bit of sarcasm. And I say, “Well, Jesus is clapping very sarcastically right now,” or he’s saying this…, or— so that’s quite interesting. That really surprised me. And Metatron came in one time and he was very funny, very, like, you know, the person was asking questions and they were, the responses were just like a, were very humorous. So I don’t know if that’s through my own 3D lens. I have no idea.

Linda Lang:
But yeah, you know, it could also serve as a reminder that we need to laugh and play on the spiritual path too, because we can get pretty serious sometimes, right?

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I found myself being way too serious and I have to pull it back to just, you know, playful and joyful and without downplaying people’s experiences. It’s never, it’s never a tool to… You don’t want to use comic relief to kind of not sit in the depths of the human emotion. You don’t want to do that ’cause that’s a distraction technique.

Linda Lang:
It’s part of the gift of being able to read people because then you can tell when they need that comic relief or when they need to be able to express their very deep and serious emotions, right?

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah. Yeah.

Linda Lang:
Peggy, it’s been so much fun having you here on the podcast. I’m wondering if you would be open to channeling some light light language to help our listeners on their path.

Peggy Oberthier:
I’d love to. We’ll just see who comes through. And yeah, I’ll set the intention to bring in a light language transmission for beautiful listeners of this podcast. to me.

Linda Lang:
Thank you. Now, is there anything that people should do to help integrate any shifts from that channeling?

Peggy Oberthier:
Yeah. Look, water is always good, breathing, just presence and stillness is always good, and trusting that you’ve received whatever you need to receive through that transmission. It felt quite light and like it was a message of just bringing joy and hope to people. That’s what it felt like. It felt that there was this, you know, just go out and have fun and be good to yourself. That was the essence of the transmission that I felt in my body.

Linda Lang:
Peggy, where can we send people who would like to know more about your work?

Peggy Oberthier:
Oh, thank you. I have a website, peggyo.com.au. I have a YouTube channel. It’s called Medical Intuitive. There’s some interesting interviews there.

Linda Lang:
And you’ll find an interview with me on that channel.

Peggy Oberthier:
Yes, it was a great interview.

Linda Lang:
We’ll put the links in the show notes for easy access. Peggy, thank you again for being my guest.

Peggy Oberthier:
Thank you so much for having me, Linda. I really appreciate it.

Linda Lang:
And thank you for listening to this week’s edition of Exploring the Mystical Side of Life. You will find all of our conversations on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform. Come visit me at www.ThoughtChange.com, pick up your copy Learning to Listen, and we will see you again next time. Bye for now.